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Lind K coming up

This teams offense is just pitiful on the road

Gibbons prolly keeps playing him because AA tells him too. This reeks of upper management being delusional on a player and forcing the manager to keep playing him.

How can anyone take this front office seriously when they continue to run out Bonifacio this far into the season?

Agreed. This move seems like a no brainer really.

Hahaha that made me laugh

I agree with that even tho I like Clarkson as a player. I dont have a problem with the advanced stats making a crossover into hockey but I think they need to be taken in context more then Baseball or even Basketball.

Ya but Corsi wont tell you when any of those qualities either lead to a costly turnover or great play to lets say clear the puck. Every turnover isnt the same and being strong in the areas I just posted will lead to less costly mistakes. Let me ask you a question....If your pinned in your own zone and the puck is stuck in a scrum along the boards, which player do you have more confidence in that will win that puck battle and eventually get the puck cleared out of danger? Naw forechecking and being a effective backchecker and understanding backpressure and positioning arent the same thing. To be a effective forechecker you sometimes just need decent speed and ability to track the defenseman and lay a hit. To be a effective backchecker it takes more hockeysense, read where the open player is and also seeing whos coming behind you. One of those most underrated aspects of the Leafs improved play last season was in its ability to apply significantly better backpresure then in previous years. Corsi is a solid advanced stat. I'm not trashing it and saying that it should be completey ignored or anything of that nature just that it has holes. Clarkson and Grabovski are 2 vastly different players and alot of the things Clarkson is good at are the intangible things that the stats guys usually dont buy into.

Sure it prolly does balance out but theres so many variables in particular how good your other 2 linemates are defensively. If you play on a line with a really good defensive player (Datz, Bergeron, Toews etc) its going to drastically play a big role in you having a quality Corsi. Also you have to factor in how a team plays and its strucular beliefs. If a team plays a fullout 3 man forecheck your going to have a much better chance at retaining posession compared to a team that plays a 2-1-2 style and almost plays passive and allows a team to exit the defensive zone much easier. I'm not discrediting advanced stats in hockey just saying they dont hold the same value that they do with a sport like baseball.

Saying Maclean has some bias against Euros is prolly stretching it. He drafted Rusty Klesla #4 overall He drafted Nikolai Zherdev #4 overall In the Nash draft year he took like 7 euros with his picks

Heres the problem with Corsi ratings tho. It doesnt take into account any of the following things..... -Physicality between 2 players -A players strength along the boards -A players ability to take a hit to make a play -A players backchecking ability and how effective they are at backpressure -A players PK'ing ability -A players forechecking ability -A players ability to cycle the puck in the offensive zone -A players ability to go to the dirty areas to score goals -A players ability to play in many different roles -A players ability to constantly be in the right position defensively -A players ability to NOT turn the puck over in costly areas I understand that if you do many of those things it will generally lead to great puck possession numbers but it still leaves alot to be desired. A player could make a great defensive play in the defensive zone, pass the puck up to his C but to then have his C turn the puck over and the opposing team come down and get a shot on net....Boom that player that actually made the good play gets docked negatively when it comes to advanced stats and Corsi. When it comes to these 2 players (Clarkson vs Grabovski) I would say Clarkson is much more effective in the intangible areas that I posted while Grabovski is prolly the better offensive player. Advanced stats in hockey are cool but alot different then that of the sport of Baseball. Theres just so many things that happen in the course of a hockey game that you'll never see on a stat sheet or puck possesion chart. The ADV stats are a great tool to use in context but still if you can rationally analyze a game of hockey correctly with your eyes thats still the best tool imo. Grabovski and Clarkson are too totally different players and each prolly fit differently and more effectively depending on the existing roster.

This team basically shows up whenever they feel like it.

The sad part is that this might not even be the worst Dickey were going to see. Most likely will just keep sharply declining.

Bobby Ryan traded to Ottawa for Silfverburg, Noesen and a first rounder

Trading Janssen seems like a no brainer.

Half this roster comes across as soft, thin skinned whiners. This is a professional sports team that is having PMS because some of the tv analysts talked badly about there very underwhelming performances? They need to start acting like adults and not teenage highschoolers.

These past 2 seasons have been a crash course that things like Charachter, professionalism and hard work really matter in pro sports. It prolly even matters more in a sport like baseball where you have to spend basically everyday of the week with these players. If this was a video game and the overall team was ranked on categories like Talent, upside they'd fare well but they would rank at the absolute bottom if there was a category classified as "intangibles". Man you just watch teams like STL or DET and they just go about their business. No shennigans. No dancing and silly celebrating. No constant off the field problems. I remember my uncle once telling me (who runs his how company) that he would rather a bunch of hard working consistant workers over more talented but lazy ones. We basically have a high maintenance roster. A tons of guys who "if everything goes right" could be stars. We just dont have enough solid day in day out PROS. I cant recall watching a pro sports team that seemed so immature and selfish but whats more worrisome is it doesnt even look like management thinks its a issue and they just allow this behavior to continue without anyone laying down the hammer. I think it all starts with AA. He just doesnt seem cutout to be a lead dog. His inability to put together a consistant functioning team after this many years is hard to believe.

It almost seems like trading Bautista/Dickey might be the only way out of this.

This is entirely on AA. He's put together just a awful group of charachters that seem more worried about fancy dance moves and amount of twitter followers then actually winning baseball games. Theres just a blatent lack of professionalism on the team and it seems like this team just shows up whenever they feel like it. This is what you get when you put together a roster full of bad apples or guys who really only care about themselves. The sad part is that you almost get the feeling its actually going to even get worse from here on out.

Because this front office is a joke. AA has no stones whatsoever.

Who even says something like that? EVERY PROFESSIONAL SPORT IS HARD.

At the end of the day this is on AA and upper management. This type of laughable behaviour has been going on way too long and the Jays have basically created a situation where certain players can say and do whatever they like without any consequences. Inmates running the asylum.

lol

Your on this message board basically as much as anyone. If you dont even care if the team wins or loses why waste so much time of your life on the team?

Oh the half retarded guy speaking up for BTS.