KevinGregg

Here's a thought: Everyone seems pretty much convinced that the Jays will call up Vladdy in April, right at the time where if he plays all the rest of the season he will be one day short of one full year of service. this would get us a 7th year of Vladdy that we wouldn't have gotten if the front office called him up to start the year and never optioned him to the minors at any point before FA. We lose him after 2025 instead of 2024, and all we have to do is pay for one extra year at league minimum. Pretty solid deal! But how come there's not really much discussion about calling him up in June next year, to avoid the super 2 date? This doesn't get us any more years of Vladdy, but it would result in pretty substantial savings. You would pay just 3 years of arbitration instead of 4. Basically you are trading the final arb 4 year which would probably be like 30 million dollars for a year at league minimum and all you have to do is give up like 6 more weeks of vlad in 2019. That's a pretty damn good trade, considering we really don't need his bat in the lineup next April and May if we aren't planning on competing anyways. 2019 500k 2020 500k 2021 500k 2022 500k 2023 arb1 - 8M 2024 arb2 - 15M 2025 arb3 - 25M 50M total or 2019 500k 2020 500k 2021 500k 2022 arb1 - 5M (4.5M extra) 2023 arb2 - 12M (4M extra) 2024 arb3 - 22M (7M extra) 2025 arb4 - 28M (3M extra) 68.5M total Obviously the numbers could be tweaked - I totally pulled them out of my ass, but I seem to recall salaries going something like that in Arbitration. The general pattern should hold regardless of how you tweak the numbers. That's a lot of payroll space each year to throw away in 2022-2025 just for 6 weeks of Vlad next year when Atkins said there is no plan to compete anyways

I think he would love that idea to be honest. Look at these quotes:

Pentecost will have to be added to the 40 man this off season if they want to avoid trying to sneak him through the rule 5 draft again like they did last off season. I wonder if they bother? 5 Catchers on the 40 man would be kinda ridiculous.

I dunno about a whole thread for each position. I mean you pretty much summed up catcher right there. Not much else to say. I figure Martin's not going anywhere at least til the deadline, and that's if he has a good year. So the only interesting question with catcher is whether or not they carry Maile. Like you said, Jansen will be the primary catcher. Martin could split time at C, but they might like the idea of having him as more of a super utility guy, based on their usage of him this year. I think to start 2020 we see Jansen start and Mcguire back him up, so they will probably transition to that setup at some point next year, probably after the trade deadline.

Eric Wedge might be the guy they bring in God help us if that's the case

Serious question: Which of the players in our system do you think will actually turn out to be good players?

Yeah, the swing path is similar but Mckinney really loads up. Much more violent swing. Olerud looks like hes just chilling

As someone who objectively wants to see Ohtani provide as much value as possible in his career you are probably right. However, as a baseball fan I just can't get behind the idea of not letting him pitch. He's such a great pitcher, it's just so fun to watch him. His start on April 8 was probably my favorite game of the year.

from that Kieth Law article: Any idea who the 13 middle infielders are? Groshans, Noda, Taylor, Warmoth, Smith, Bichette, Biggio? Is he including Gurriel, Diaz, Travis?

They also get him for the playoffs, that's a pretty big deal

To be fair to Reddit, as far above reddit that this board is in quality, reddit is probably even farther than that above facebook.

Looks like they aren't doing the Montreal games in ST next year.. kinda sad but understandable I guess, they only had like 20k people this year https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/schedule/2019-03?sf92039295=1

I don't think you know what the word ceiling means

Garcia dfa'd Guess we aren't picking up his option

If we bring back Donaldson and the young starters pitch well we could have a good team next year. I think we have a chance to compete - the most important thing about bringing Donaldson back is that we might be adding an 8 win player. Vladdy is going to get called up next year no matter what, why waste that year?

Teo is like pre-Cito Bautista ridiculously prodigious power, but he's on record saying he's trying to go the other way most of the time. I am pretty sure he needs to talk with Joey Bats for 5 minutes about the merit of a dead pull approach when you have power like that

Does gaviglio have any kind of future with the team?

Wouldnt the 10 extra walks be worth way more than the 10 extra rbi

Martin could actually provide some decent value next year in a utility role. The batting average has got to come up at least a little bit too. Hes a useful player, just maybe not a starting catcher for a contender anymore. And as for the salary, ya it's high now. But we also paid him like 8 million dollars in the first year to be one of the best catchers in the game. The deal is heavily back loaded, it's not like hes getting paid 20million dollars to be a superstar right now

Could be watching for defense signs

8 ip 1er 11k 2bb 0hr 2h 116 pitches complete game loss

The kid is legit

That would be like a 20 WAR season. That would be so worth it lol

Wildguy I think his name was

In 2015 baseball America ranked the Jays farm system 10th. This year they ranked them 9th. Whatever potential you saw before is certainly comparable to what we have now. Here is an excellent write up about some of the most exciting prospects in the system: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2018-toronto-blue-jays-top-10-prospects-midseason-update/%3famphtml I feel like there's certainly a chance that the kids all just hit the ground running and we compete next year. If not, 2020 should be a very good roster.