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And Money talks.

Agree 100%. From Bellinger's perspective, Blue Jays are probably the best match. Team is going to be competitive. They just traded Teo so are in need of an OF replacement, someone who can play CF. He knows playing time here won't be an issue. As well, look at Marcus Semien as a recent example. Signed a 1 year contract in Toronto and rebuilt his value to land a huge contract. Belly is thinking the same thing. Playing 81 games at the Rogers Centre is going to help. Toronto I think is a perfect fit.

I don't think so. Maybe more than $300M for sure, but would rather see him prove 2021 was no fluke. Would rather spend $350M on Vladdy after another 6 WAR season in 2023 rather than gamble on giving him $300M after his 2022 season.

I'm okay with either one of Bellinger or Conforto at 1 year around $15 million. Conforto would be a safer bet from an offensive standpoint, though Belly would offer more upside if he comes close to his MVP season. If they could sign both, even better haha.

Yeah the CFL fan base is mostly an older fan base from the 70s/80s along with their kids or family members or friends of players who play in the CFL. The league does need to do a better job at targeting a younger audience. Out west in Winnipeg, Saskatchewan and Calgary, they don't really have a problem. CFL fan base out there is huge. Even Hamilton isn't that bad. The CFL lacks in the bigger cosmopolitan cities like Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal. The CFL needs to adopt a similar rule as the MLS does. Where you can roster 2 or 3 players, pay them any type of contract which doesn't count towards the salary cap. Better way at keeping some of the younger stars or even bringing in some retired NFL stars or player who are near the end of their career.

Yeah agreed. He would have to come close to his 2021 form and even perform better. I was thinking it with being a contract year, he could have a big season. But realistically, 2-3 WAR is most likely where he sits.

Yeah Judge is over 30. If he was 27 or 28, then maybe, but even still. I don't think there is a rush to lock up Vladdy or Bo just yet. Want to see Vladdy come close to his 2021 performance and then I feel comfortable giving him $300M over 8 or 10 years.

If Teo posts a 4-5 WAR season in 2023, then short term will benefit the Mariners. Jays have to hope Swanson posts a 1.5 WAR season and is a fixture in the bullpen. As well, Jays got to use that extra money wisely on another OF. If they do, then Jays IMO won't regret trading Teo. Jays pretty much improve the bullpen without losing too much in the outfield (even if they sign a lesser OF than Teo).

Those last 5 minutes were crazy. Can't believe they pulled it off. CFL is a fun league to watch. Doesn't get the love it deserves.

Italy is going to win it all this year!

LMAO. I didn't pay that but some sucker did haha. Watched the game along with the Raps game from the comfort of my own home. Good to see the Leafs play well tonight!

Leafs going to win the Cup! Worth spending $500 to sit in the nosebleeds tonight!!!

Andrew B is a better sign than Brandon Nimmo at over $100M.

The end goal is to win a World Series. Yes the Jays had a solid season, though no player or fan should be jumping for joy the way the season went overall.

Why do you assume that? He's only 27 years old and only played in 96 games last season because he wasn't 100%. It's not like he's in his 30's and his last good season was 4-5 years ago.

Did Randal Grichuk ever put together a 5+ WAR season at the age of 25?

I stated that the Cards would probably expect Kirk back in a deal if they dealt Nootbar because of the control. Could be wrong but we'll see. Don't think they would take two years of Jansen for 5 years of Nootbar.

You idiot. His career year was in 2021, only one season ago lmao and he's only 27. If O'Neill had a 5 WAR season in 2022, he wouldn't even be available for Jansen. You're buying low on O'Neill!

You must really love Canadian ballplayers!

Jansen for Tyler O'Neill would be great and a very solid replacement for Teo. Very fair swap for both teams IMO. Under control for two more seasons and can even be better than Teo (5-6 WAR potential as we've seen). Plus in his second arbitration year and with the season he had, he won't take up as much payroll as Teo would obviously.

According to MLB the Show, Jays could have got way more for Teo than just Swanson and Macko.

If Swanson posts 1.5-2 WAR seasons for the next three years sure. We know relievers are volatile though. If he flames out and doesn't provide any value, you're pretty much relying on Macko to provide something. Also, don't forget if Teo goes out and has a monster season like he did in 2021, Mariners offer him a QO. If he accepts, they get him for another season for around $18-20M. From a roster control and payroll perspective, I like the move. Jays need to follow up bringing another solid OF on board which I think they will. As well, got to hope Swanson can be a valuable late inning arm for this club and a difference maker down in the BP.

It's kind of annoying that everyone now is going to be using Baseball Trade Values to assess a trade.

At first glance looks like a light return for Teo, though Jays need to follow up this move with another OF signing or trade which they most likely will. Even during what was considered a down year for Teo, he still posted a 2.4 WAR and the hope was in his contract year he would have put up big numbers and put up a 4-5 WAR season. If he does that with Seattle, hurts the Jays in the short term. Seattle likely will offer Teo a QO if he has a good 2023 season as well. Long term, from a cost and control standpoint, the Jays get Swanson for 3 years at a very respectable cost rather than spending $30-40 million on a middle reliever during free agency. Swanson posted a 1.7 WAR last season and was an elite high K bullpen arm. If he continues to build on his 2022 season, he for sure will help the Jays. Only concern is we know relievers are volatile. Macko seems like a high upside arm who could start or worst case end up in the bullpen. 6 years of control is nice as well. If Teo hits like he did in 2022, then nothing to cry over about losing him. If Swanson can repeat his 2022 season and have a 1.5-2 WAR season, based on salary + control of him and Macko, win for the Jays. If Swanson shits the bed, gets injured and Macko is just a minor league guy who never does anything in the bigs, then Mariners who are contending probably come out on top in the short term. Should be easy to replace Teo with a FA signing or trade. Jays should be able to target a 3-4 WAR outfielder or better. As well, I think the way Teo presented himself at times this season, maybe moving him wasn't a bad idea after all given if they want to change the clubhouse culture a bit.

I'm more worried about the Orioles moving forward than the Yankees. Also, never count out the Rays and we all know Boston overnight can go for a last place team in the division to first place if they spend money to overhaul the roster.