John_Havok

Summary of the owners new offer: We’ll fill all the Coke machines, for free. Deal?

I hate you for that

Another example of revisionist ******** catering to the unintelligent masses who are too dumb to speak the language correctly.

You split your infinitive though, which just makes you look dumb.

Fergie is classy. He tried to ring Joe West to congratulate him on his retirement. But Joe missed the call.

Sure. I think he will be a quality bat. What kind of quality is subject to debate.

True, but Bichette is already doing it at the major league level and truly only for 1 season. We've yet to see if he can make the adjustment longer term. I think he will, but it's not a given. The way I see Bo is that 2021 was pretty much the best we'll see from him (which is totally fine... not saying it's bad or disappointing) unless he can make adjustments to laying off those pitches we can all see he has no business swinging at. Make that adjustment and he's easily superstar calibre rather than just all-star. Moreno hasn't done anything at the major league level yet, so forgive me if I hedge on the side of unproven. Can't really count on the 90th percentile outcome without having sniffed a major league pitch. It's possible... sure. Anything is possible.

"Eric Logenhagen was saying he doesn’t see 30+ homer potential in that bat, but with his innate ability to make contact combined with his reported exit velos, I’ll have to disagree with him there." Well, that innate ability to make contact on bad pitches is what could actually prevent him from getting to the game power at the big league level. If he makes contact on pitches that he shouldn't be swinging at, he's much less likely to hit it for a HR. And when that scouting report gets around the league, he'll see even fewer pitches in the zone. Kinda like Kevin Pillar syndrome - except Moreno does have enough power to mash the mistakes.

No. he just forks over the money for whatever length of games the suspension would be for and it's over.

Any suspension would be retroactive to his admin leave start date. It's likely he'd be eligible to pitch on day 1 when the season starts.

Yes, it's possible laws MAY have been broken but they have little chance of conviction due to "insert factors here", but it could also mean the prospect of conviction is low because no laws were broken. We, not having all the info, should not make assumptions either way.

Cheeky bastard, you stole my line.

THis is my favorite so far:

Hey, you learn something new everyday. I was not aware it was the owners who had originally pushed for arbitration, and it used to start after 2 years, with no limits on how often if could be gone through. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-lockout-examining-baseballs-precedent-for-arbitration-eligibility-after-two-years/?fbclid=IwAR1lyjOCc0ruztSmMzGLqbViJ6fuIYcqHtr6j2jeyZLUIdYTUwS90N6TgtQ

Yeah, there are stories from back in December that dont go into details, but basically state he is not expected to return to the team this season. Maybe he gets traded at the deadline, but otherwise will be bought out at the end of the season. He just doesnt want to play for Toronto for whatever reason.

Yeah. Gotta love it. Some other umps retired too, Fieldin Culbreth, Kerwin Danley, Gerry Davis, and Brian Gorman along with Joe West.

That's his point. The MLB statement is worded so that it puts the blame on the PA for Spring Training not opening on time, when the only thing currently stopping it is the lockout, which is 100% on the ownership group.

Damn. I never even had the thought that Davis might have been on steroids.

Only the lockout is currently preventing spring training from moving forward. Kind of an important word to have been left out. If the owners ended the lockout, there's no guarantee the player's wouldnt strike.

Of course, but like I said. its all about perspective.

Persepctive I guess. Whats fair to the players when they;ve been getting smoked by the owners is every CBA since 1994 is probably different than what's fair to the owners, who have been doing the smoking. If fair agreements had been happening since then, the 2 parties likely wouldnt be where they are today.

It's a terrible look for the owners, its just another optics play for the court of public opinion. They're counting on this looking like a sincere effort to get a deal done, when the reality is they know the players won't want a mediator because the mediator would likely recommend far more concessions than they want to give like the mediator did in 1994. THey kicked him to the curb then, and don't want to repeat that process. Many forget that the strike only ended in 1994 when a judge ordered the previous CBA be reinstated. A new CBA agreement wasn't actually reached until 1997. Current acting driector of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service is Gregory Goldstein since the Senate didn't confirm Biden's nominee. From his bio - Goldstein is a career member of the Senior Executive Service and has served as the Chief Operating Officer for FMCS since 2018. Ramirez began his FMCS career as a Commissioner in 2005 and is currently the Executive Manager of the Division of Agency Initiatives. He has mediated disputes in almost all sectors of the American economy, including multi-party disputes in manufacturing, construction, and education.

THis wouldnt happen at all. You'd just see them replaced within the next 10 minutes with the next poor schlub willing to play for peanuts. THe whole reason the MILB players get stiffed is because some idiots on the supreme court decided they shouldnt be subject to the Sherman Antitrust act because MILB didnt qualify as interstate commerce, so the system of getting screwed has just become the expected norm for the past 100 years. Its important to note that no other sport has been granted this exemption except MILB

It really is all about the dollar signs. For the most part, people can definitely relate to not getting paid their fair share when they see their company or workplace being highly sucessful, but they just consider themselves lucky to be employed and the fact that the dollar figures for the players are so much more than they make, its like they think the players should just be happy to get what they get just because it's more than what they make. It's hard to put yourself in the players mindset for sure because of the actual dollars, but if they had all the info, I think they'd feel differently. The basics of "The employee's wages are getting lower, while the owner's profits are getting higher..." is still valid, no matter what the actual dollars are.