Always have to use the manager as a scapegoat for bigger problems. Gibbons is practically irrelevant in this whole f***ing abomination of a season. I really have no problem with him, it's the idiots at the top (Beeston/AA) that need to f***ing go. I mean I hate how hypocritical some can be towards the manager based on season results. I mean I guess we can try to hire a 10 WAR manager or what not, but the manager is "just there" handling defensive assignments with the other coaches, and managing the bullpen (which I've had no problem with for the most part).
I'd hope the people who dislike Gibbons would still dislike him even if the Jays were 72-57.