Dr. Dinger

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-hope-add-impact-arm-impact-bat-off-season/ Maybe J.D. Martinez + a TOR pitcher isn't that crazy!

Yeah, Miguel Sano was skinny when he was Vlad's age. Let us hope Vlad improves his conditioning over time and can maintain an acceptable MLB body.

Is J.D. Martinez + Otani + Tanaka + Darvish too much to ask?

What the f*** even happened to Dalton Pompey? Is he hurt? Mental breakdown? He just fell completely off the map this year.

Hopefully he can be maintain a Miguel Cabrera sorta-fat body as opposed to Prince Fielder's grotesque obesity. http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxITEhUTExMWFhUXFx0XGBcYGBgXGxgbFxgXGRgYGBcdHyggGBolHR8XITEhJSkrLi4uFyAzODMtNygtLisBCgoKBQUFDgUFDisZExkrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrKysrK//AABEIAPUAzgMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAcAAACAgMBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAFBgMEAAIHCAH/xABLEAACAQIDBQQDDAcGBQUBAAABAhEAAwQSIQUGMUFREyJhcTKBkQcUQlJjkqGxwdHS4RUXI1Rzk/AkYqOys/EWM0NTciU0NUSCov/EABQBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD/xAAUEQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwDjGzNm3cQ/Z2UzvBMSBoOOpIFGBuNtD93Pz7f4qse5pcy42Yn9m/2V1dce8xk ug5D/wACbR/dz8 3 KthuBtL92Pz7X4q7GuLuZsoT1wati5d KfZQcT/AFe7T/dj/Mtfjr7 rvaf7qf5lr8ddr7W/wAgfZXwYjEdKDi49znan7qf5lr8dfR7m 1f3U/zLX467cly/wD1FbWrl8kgk/RQcQ/VrtX91P8AMtfjrP1a7V/dT/Mtfjrs IGMJ7rwPMVJhrOKnvXPpoOKfq12r 6n Za/HWfq12r 6n ZZ/HXfEw9zm30mpxhiOJ ug89/q22r 6n ZZ/HX0e5ttX91/xLP467xtS2iJnuXxaUfCM8 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Those thighs are looking a bit hefty! Time to cut back on the rice & beans.

BP gave some tidbits this morning on the Javelinas AFL roster, which includes the following Jays: Jackson McClelland, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays A 15th-rounder in 2015, McClelland takes advantage of his 6-foot-5 frame by throwing from a high slot that results a lot of grounders. He throws his heater about 75 percent of the time, and with its plus velocity and ground-ball inducing ways, it is a tough pitch to square. The rest of the arsenal lags behind, leaving his upside limited. —Steve Givarz Daniel Young, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays A clever, side-arming lefty, Young doesn’t really survive on velocity as much as he does location and guile. The velocity is middling at best, but he can spot it, sink it, and get grounders. Every team needs lefties like this in the organization, but he lacks upside. —SG T.J. Zeuch, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays The Blue Jays first-rounder in 2016, Zeuch heads out to the desert to regain lost innings due to injury. Zuech only accumulated 65 innings this year after dealing with various injuries. At his best, Zeuch is a strike-thrower (a surprising fact at 6-foot-7) who can use his plus heater to do all the work needed. What’s special about Zeuch is that his fastball is also a worm-killer, inducing ground-balls at a 64-percent clip in High-A this season. His best off-speed pitch is his curve, with hard, downer action and good depth that can be a swing and miss pitch at times. The rest of the arsenal is inconsistent, so look for Zeuch to work on all of the above in Arizona. —SG Lourdes Gurriel, INF, Toronto Blue Jays I really didn’t know what to do with Gurriel in my viewings. How much do I attribute to being away from the game? If he looks fooled do I write it up as “he’s been gone from the game for a long time, let’s get him some more at-bats” or as “does he struggle recognizing this pitch? Does he have bat speed to catch up?” I know what the Blue Jays signed him for. I know about his brother. Neither of which I like to use as reasonings for my reports but maybe I just did see him as a raw player getting back into things. —SG Max Pentecost, C, Toronto Blue Jays “Is Pentecost healthy?” will always be the million-dollar question. There is no question of his offensive ability, but it has become more and more about when he will play. He has premium bat speed, quick, strong wrists, and the ability to barrel up whatever is thrown at him. In my looks this year I rarely saw him get fooled; he had an approach and a plan every time and seemed to execute. While I know he can hit, where will he play? Pentecost DHed almost 45 percent of the time this season, and caught in only 19 games this season. His right arm, lost to many surgeries and time was fringe-average and seems to be a first-base only player now. If healthy, there might not be a player with as much offensive upside as Pentecost. IF. —SG

And if Maitan does become a FA, you just know our front office will be all over him. Shatkins have shown a strong willingness to use financial power shrewdly to bring in young talent.

Didn't the Jays make some signing pool trades to ensure they would have the most money to offer him?

Jaromir Jagr is incredible. The fact that he's still going as a 45 year old is amazing, but consider this: Jagr could play this season and next, a full 82 games in both seasons, not score a single point in either season, and still have over a point-per-game for his career. WHAT

Yes but how did you get the agreement? That's the issue. Did you build a relationship with the player and convince them you are the right org for them? Or did you bribe some buscone and make an arrangement where the player had no say? I've often wondered how these known agreements come to be. For those of you who haven't seen it, I highly recommend the documentary Pelotero, which follows the signing period of Miguel Sano and other prospects who did not pan out. It's interesting the ways in which the MLB teams conspired to screw over Sano and drop his price tag, first by spreading rumours about his age and then by strong-arm tactics (specifically the Pirates). There is all kinds of shady crap going on in Latin American baseball, it's really the Wild West.

Keith (Farmington, CT): Thanks JJ. Am I wrong or is Vladimir Guerrero Jr's plate discipline at age 18 (76 BB to 62 K's) Joey Votto-esque? Do we have a generational talent? J.J. Cooper: It’s actually better than Votto’s at the same age. Votto’s first pro season with more walks than strikeouts came in 2012 as a 28-year-old. Vlad Jr. is doing it as a teenager. Devon (Belmont, CA): What kind of power ceiling do you see for Bo Bichette? 20 homers out of the question? J.J. Cooper: Freddy Galvis has hit 20 HRs in the big leagues and I never thought he’d top 10 HRs in a season so I’d say Bichette is capable of hitting more than 20 in the future. Obviously things could change and MLB baseball could return to some level of HR normalcy but in the present environment, I’d say Bichette has a chance to have more than 20 HR power. That being said, right now 20 home runs is barely worth celebrating as 117 MLB players hit 20+ HRs this year.

Too bad he apparently sucks anyway.

He'd be a pretty good option as a leadoff hitter, back to back .370 OBP seasons. Still though, I wouldn't be inclined to give up a top prospect for him. I could easily see him slipping to like a 90 wRC+, and with a bit of variance in defence, he could be more like a 1-2 WAR player than the 3-4 WAR player he's been the last two seasons. I'd put Alford and Pearson in the off-limits pile, with Bo and Vlad obviously well outside the realm of possibility.

It's crazy to think that Josh has now averaged 7+ WAR over a 5 year span. What a remarkable peak he's had, it's significantly better than Miggy's best 5 year stretch.

Interesting, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Maitan signing. It was well-known that he was locked in with the Braves long before he was eligible to sign.

The FA market may work against him slightly, since most teams will probably be eyeing Harper and Machado first and foremost. What could end up happening is that teams prioritize Machado's youth over Donaldson, and he ends up missing out on the biggest 3B contract and has to take a bit of a consolation prize. If he can get something comparable now, and mitigate his risk of getting hurt and losing lots of money, it's worth his while.

I don't agree with this, it would significantly detract from the quality of prospects we would otherwise get.

A club option does nothing to benefit Donaldson, so that's not really a sweetener (assuming 5/$150 isn't enough). We'd probably have to make the 6th year a vesting option, which is reasonable. Something like a 6th year at $30M if he accumulates 1,000 total PA in '21/'22.

If you add in a 6th year @ $30M, you're chipping away another $10-20M of surplus value, and so on, so that's where it starts to get unpalatable. Of course, he could just come back next year with an 8 WAR season and turn the whole thing into a gold strike.

I have a lot of faith in Shatkins to assess his future value, so if there is a contract to be done, I'm sure it will have a good deal of surplus value. Nice to know Josh is open to it, although why wouldn't he be? He won an MVP here, made it to the ALCS twice, played in front of packed stadiums, and has been completely idolized. I don't see Vladdy sticking at 3B long term, so IMO that should have no bearing on the negotiation. I'd be willing to offer around 5 years, $150M. I don't know if that would definitely get a deal done, but it's a reasonable starting point. Napkin math: [TABLE=width: 712] [TR] [TD]Year[/TD] [TD]Age[/TD] [TD]Pr. WAR[/TD] [TD]$/WAR[/TD] [TD]Pr. Value[/TD] [TD]Contract Offer[/TD] [TD]Surplus Value[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2018[/TD] [TD]32[/TD] [TD]6[/TD] [TD]$10,000,000[/TD] [TD]$60,000,000[/TD] [TD]$30,000,000[/TD] [TD]$30,000,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2019[/TD] [TD]33[/TD] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]$10,500,000[/TD] [TD]$52,500,000[/TD] [TD]$30,000,000[/TD] [TD]$22,500,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2020[/TD] [TD]34[/TD] [TD]4[/TD] [TD]$11,000,000[/TD] [TD]$44,000,000[/TD] [TD]$30,000,000[/TD] [TD]$14,000,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2021[/TD] [TD]35[/TD] [TD]3[/TD] [TD]$11,500,000[/TD] [TD]$34,500,000[/TD] [TD]$30,000,000[/TD] [TD]$4,500,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2022[/TD] [TD]36[/TD] [TD]2[/TD] [TD]$12,000,000[/TD] [TD]$24,000,000[/TD] [TD]$30,000,000[/TD] [TD]($6,000,000)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]20[/TD] [TD]Totals[/TD] [TD]$215,000,000[/TD] [TD]$150,000,000[/TD] [TD]$65,000,000[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

I think I formatted my own Google Doc roster correctly, z, but lemme know if I f***ed it up.

What's one WAR worth these days? Still around $10M? Probably a bit more, but let's call it $10M. You can reasonably project Donaldson for 6 WAR next year so even at a salary of $17M, he's still a $40M+ asset just for 2018 alone. Lol that trade. Holy f*** does Billy Beane suck.

Yeah there's nothing more annoying than clawing your way to the finals only to have your best players sitting most of the week because their team has either clinched or been eliminated.

Alex Reyes is a must-have in any deal IMO, and I'd want a couple more pieces to boot.