Chappy
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And the price to acquire him goes up as well. It's a two way street.
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I agree with you, I just think Happ has more value to this team than most give him credit for. Sure we have better depth for the coming season, but that depth has more value now. Without Happ everyone gets bumped up a notch and we essentially get weaker overall. The price tag for Happ is fair and I hate that people knock him and the organization for a reasonable contract.
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Absolutely, but I'd rather have Happ than not. Everyone assumes if we didn't have Happ, we would spend that money on something else, I'm not certain that is true.
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And that has been quite obvious by none of his rotation upgrades. Not that I doubt he will improve the rotation, but I'm certain Happ will be in it come opening day.
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Apparently lottery tickets are the way to go.
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Your speaking as though all those options were available at the time he was signed to that extension. Happ is not overpaid by any means. To add to that you talk about playoff teams, but are we even that right now? We might be close but we're not yet in the conversation until we get an upgrade to our rotation. As of right now Happ is our # 4, without him we would be even worse. It's nice to think our internal options will be better, but chances are they may not.
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Currently Happ is our #4 SP.
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He provided 1.2 WAR last season in 18 starts, had he not suffered that freak injury, it likely would have been 2 WAR. That is solid value for what he is getting paid.
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I get the giving up the assets part, but it's not like he gave up anything of any real significance. I think too many people over value mediocre prospects on this forum. Value is one thing, but let's see if he even provides any before calling that deal a fail.
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Fair assessment.
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Sure, he is a fine depth piece, but let's not kid ourselves.
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Most first rounders fail. Woj has done nothing special since being drafted to warrant that pick. He might be a half decent prospect, but let's not kid ourselves.
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More than likely he never has as good a career as Happ.
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In AAA yes. In the bigs he is a middle reliever until something better comes along or if he gets lucky.
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I like Happ and even I consider him below average. Woj is worthless.
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The one and only Masahiro Tanaka posting and bidding thread
Chappy replied to SAAviour's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
What your suggesting isn't creative. Its potential franchise suicide. -
Doesn't help that Wojo is kind of a worthless prospect.
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It was a phenomenal season no doubt.
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Wojo obviously. Happ is Wojo's ceiling.
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He isn't great by any means but he is a fifth starter, nothing more. What he provides in his role isn't terrible by any means.
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If potential middle relievers are your thing, that's cool.
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Ken, if Happ is a #5 on a good team, then why would we trade him for a bag of balls? Either you think our team is elite, or you consider his $5M salary to be a hindrance to our already nearly $135M payroll. It just doesn't add up. I respect your opinion, but this Happ hate from half the board is a load of crap. He has value.
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Seemed like a good guy, but he didn't have a HOF type of career. He was definitely one of the best players in the league in his prime, but he wasn't elite.
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Is Delgado HOF worthy? No.
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The one and only Masahiro Tanaka posting and bidding thread
Chappy replied to SAAviour's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
I doubt it. I think we end up with either Santana or Jimenez.
