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Done, but you can't imbed GIF's inline on those MLB boards I don't think http://www.forums.mlb.com/discussions/Boston_Red_Sox/General/Pablo_Sandoval_has_a_fat_belly/ml-redsox/284333.1?nav=messages

One of my favorite sports GIF's of all time http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Sandoval-fail.gif

How would you rank: MLB Pipeline Baseball Prospectus Baseball America Keith Law Fangraphs ? others

Stroman is so much better than Beede it's awesome

LOL Shhhhh :-) I kept thinking "where's Hoffman" as I was flipping though pages. just missed him on the first scan through. I had fixed my post before I saw your comment.

From the LOL department: 134. Tyler Beede, RHP, San Francisco Giants Fastball: 60/65, Curveball: 45/50+, Changeup: 50/55, Command: 40/45+, FV: 50 Scouting Report: Beede was a hyped prospect that went in the 1st round out of high school in 2011, opting not to sign with the Blue Jays before going in the first round again in 2014 out of Vanderbilt to the Giants. Beede was maddeningly inconsistent in college, only showing flashes of his immense promise at times, but his velocity spiked into the high-90′s before the draft and his changeup still flashes plus at times, so there’s #2/3 starter upside here if a pitching coach can get through to him.

Norris is ahead of Syndergaard by 2 spots

17. Daniel Norris, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays Fastball: 55/60, Curveball: 55/60, Slider: 50/55, Changeup: 45/50+,Command: 45/50+, FV: 60 Scouting Report: Norris was a well-known prospect coming out of a Tennessee high school, both for his above-average stuff dating back to his sophomore year, as well as his troublesome delivery. He slipped to the second round in 2011, but the Jays scooped him up at the 74th overall pick with a $2 million bonus. The Jays development staff a couple years to clean everything up and unlock Norris’ athleticism, but he shot from High-A to the big leagues in 2014 alongside CF Dalton Pompey (#80 on this list). Norris runs his fastball up to 96 mph with above average to plus off-speed pitches and good feel to pitch; there’s #2/3 starter upside and he likely won’t spend much more time in the minors. 67. Jeff Hoffman, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays Fastball: 60/70, Curveball: 55/65, Changeup: 50/55, Command: 40/50+, FV: 55 Scouting Report: Hoffman was a known power arm for the 2014 draft at East Carolina, then he broke out in the summer before the draft on the Cape (see linked video), flashing an 80 fastball and 65 or 70 curveball from an athletic delivery, projectable frame and shockingly good feel to pitch given the power stuff. He didn’t look the same in the spring, as just as he was making adjustments to his delivery to regain form, his elbow popped and he won’t return until until mid-season in 2015. Even with the surgery taking Hoffman out of #1 overall pick contention, the Jays thought he wouldn’t get out of the top 5, so they were pleased to land him with the 9th overall pick. He drew comparisons to Adam Wainwright and Justin Verlander on the Cape, so if he regains that form, he could shoot to the top of this list in short order. 70. Aaron Sanchez, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays Fastball: 65/70, Curveball: 55/60, Changeup: 45/50+, Command: 45/45+, FV: 55 Scouting Report: Sanchez has a sturdy 6-foot-4/200 frame and loose arm that helped him go in the sandwich round in 2010 out of a southern California high school. He was a raw pitcher with flashes of power stuff, but Sanchez has really grown into his velocity since then, sitting 95-98 and hitting 99 mph in 33 big league relief innings at the end of 2014. As his off-speed stuff has improved to give Sanchez at least mid-rotation stuff, the question remains if he fits better there or as a closer. Toronto’s #5 starter spot is still an open competition along with at least one bullpen slot, so Sanchez has the opportunity this year to prove where he fits. 80. Dalton Pompey, CF, Toronto Blue Jays Hit: 40/50+, Raw Power: 45/45, Game Power: 35/40, Run: 60/60, Field: 50/55, Throw: 45/45+, FV: 50 Scouting Report: Pompey was a little-known, young-for-his-class Canadian high schooler in the 2011 draft and stayed under the radar until a strong finish to his 2013 campaign in Low-A. He shot through the system in 2014, going form High-A to the big leagues after he kept impressing at each level when the Blue Jays though he may settle in. Pompey will start in Triple-A or the big leagues in 2015 and is the center fielder of the future, but the tools are more solid everyday than star material. 93. Max Pentecost, C, Toronto Blue Jays Hit: 20/50+, Raw Power: 20/45+, Game Power: 45/50+, Run: 55/50+, Field: 45/55, Throw: 60/60, FV: 50 Scouting Report: Pentecost was the breakout prospect in last summer’s Cape Cod League as a super-athletic catcher from a small school (Kennesaw State), that was a so-so physical away from signing with Texas out of high school. I was the high guy on him much of the spring, with the industry catching up when Theo Epstein was spotted at a Pentecost game and rumors spread that he may go #4 overall. Pentecost ended up going #11 overall and has unusual tools for a catcher with a ridiculous amount of energy (watch the end of the linked video) and every tool solid average or better, though his line drive approach in games causes his raw power to play down right now. 119. Roberto Osuna, RHP, Toronto Blue Jays Fastball: 55/60, Cutter: 55/60, Slider: 50/55, Changeup: 50/55, Command: 40/45+, FV: 50 Scouting Report: Osuna signed for $1.5 million in 2011 as a 16-year-old out of Mexico. He had a mature frame and had hit 95 mph, but sat around 90 and relied on pitchability and an above average to plus changeup. He returned from Tommy John surgery late this year and his velocity jumped a couple ticks, to the surprise and delight of Blue Jays execs. He’s now sitting 92-94 and hitting 97 mph, sitting a few ticks higher in short stints, with a slider and cutter that are both above average and the same changeup as before. The command hasn’t quite come back but that usually happens in year two or three after surgery, so Osuna could shoot up this list soon. +45 FV Devon Travis Sean Reid-Foley

Awesome With the HDMH shirt on

Spent money and got some names. Still a very incomplete team. Very similar.

I should have closed this thing a year ago

True Thank God we didn't do that trade

Yeah I've been over that for a year now Who geefs a fawk Stroman rocks

Agree Rogers/payroll are not to blame

BP updated list Feb. 16: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=25592 10. Toronto Blue Jays Farm System Ranking in 2014: 12 2015 Top Ten Prospects: Link Top Prospect: Aaron Sanchez (25) Prospects on the BP 101: 4 State of the System: Consistently known for having a deep arsenal of boom or bust prospects, the Blue Jays continue to impress the scouting community with high-ceiling talents that are beginning to reach the major-league level. Led by big-league ready prospects Aaron Sanchez, Daniel Norris, and Dalton Pompey, and the addition of first-rounder and potential front of the rotation arm Jeff Hoffman, the top of the Blue Jays system could offer some awe-inspiring talent. Coming behind that impressive group, Jays fans can look forward to the development of left-hander Jair Labourt, right-handers Miguel Castro, Roberto Osuna, and Alberto Tirado, and the wild card that is Anthony Alford. Even with the impending graduations of Sanchez, Norris, and Pompey, the Blue Jays still should have one of the top systems in the game. Must-See Affiliate: Low-A Lansing Prospects to See There: Jairo Labourt, Max Pentacost, Sean Reid-Foley, Matt Smoral, Alberto Tirado

NICE Hoffman > Dan Duquette

Gonna put this in the minor league thread

Yes. Then they have to clear waivers or consent to the move in order to be optioned. That's why those fringe guys with 5/6/7 years of service get bounced around so much. They get waived and claimed all the time.

That was a good read. Thanks.

Same. I'll admit I was all for a Colby contract extension 3-4 years at 12-14M per at that point too.

Colby could be playing in Japan in a couple more years

Had to look it up to remind myself that Colby signed with the Astros for 8M

Excellent point LOL

Exactly. AA will not even consider an extension until he's played at least a couple of years here and is closer to free agency. That's his philosophy. Even if it ultimately costs a bit more to lock guys up if they stay really good, you can avoid some bad contracts by not gambling too early.