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absolutely I think the max is $500K. It was a fun little distraction for the off-season.

Wonder if it will open up again next year when Beest leaves. If the O's struggle at all, they might blame the distraction and be a little more realistic in their requests (and the Jays can blame Eddie III, who likely won't have much to do with the club moving forward).

Zero chance it's truly over, I can't see Angelos not taking a shot at the Jays getting a tampering fine.

It being a teachable skill (TdA said he spent 100's of hours working on it since arriving with the Mets) when will the Jose Molina school of framing open up?

One of my favourite stats...the Dodgers are paying the same amount for players no longer on their team as the Marlins payroll (47M or something like that)

However we know that there are plenty of teams out there that don't care about framing (doesn't mean they don't have old school views of "good defense" or good receiver") so where does his trade value lie? I'd guess someone views him as a small asset. Jays may have to wait for an injury though.

A firm maybe. I trust most people on these boards but cash leagues (even small entry fees) can lead to ugliness, specifically with trades.

Luhnow might be proving that wrong though.

wasn't that basically set up by him taking a team with basically no bad contracts, trading approximately 100M in value, and adding $50M in payroll over 2 years. I give him a lot of credit as I said that the only way he'd get out of the jam was continuing to add payroll. Payroll has stayed somewhat static and he has improved the team (partially because he traded Lawrie, something that from a PR position I never thought he'd do). But prior to this season he did absolutely nothing to give himself more flexibility.

I'd say more middle of the pack. But I also think there are a lot of really stupid GM's out there.

Duke U, rejected me and I still jerk off to Coach K. I applied to a Rays job as well...don't have hatred for them. Someday my hatred for AA will be better understood.

I just Google'd "Edward Rogers III address Toronto and my internet (Rogers) stopped working for several minutes. I'll just back out of this search now.

I honestly believe that AA might be learning a little bit from his mistakes (you'd have to be an idiot not to) and maybe is listening a little more to better people. I know that in the past Perry Minasian and Dana Brown both had a huge impact on his decisions. Perry's background is being born into a baseball family and was in AA's wedding party, so isn't going anywhere. Brown is known as an old school, scouts are seldom wrong, guy. The Jays analytic's department is mainly made up of interns who are paid somewhere near minimum wage. I know from applying to the process that are looking for guys with a very strong math background....but I think AA believes they should be happy to continue making that. It's possible that the analytic interns are being listened to more often now, but I find it hard to believe that the same group of guys that had Arencibia as a better defensive (and offensive) catcher than TdA suddenly understands Martin's true value. As for K% and BB% he also publicly has called OPS an advanced stat. Lastly I love debate. Don't get as much time to debate baseball as my unemployed poker playing years, but I'm up for it anytime.

Griffin and Cathal Kelly are huge Beeston guys though. I don't honestly know the truth on this one but speculation doesn't just come out of no where. If it's Beeston looking to move on to other things, than the Reinsdorf's story just doesn't hold water either.

I think Beeston being vocal against Manfred was pretty strongly documented, as was his hardline on not changing his vote (there were rumours that he'd change his vote if he was promised a retirement gig at the MLB office I only remember one article on that one). Manfred like Selig is known as a labour guy that is big on making sure the MLB and MLBPA keep a good relationship. Rogers asking him not to vote against Manfred was from a guy in Vancouver named Michael Hobson.

He cares about value as in what he's willing to pay. He doesn't value, sabermetric values. You don't have to believe this...I really don't care. I don't think I'm smarter than I am. I think I'm a smart guy...but there are probably 30 guys on this board that I think are way smarter than me. The fat thing is a running joke that a few people here will understand (I don't like fat pitching prospects...and happen to like really thin girls). I have, in my 44 years, done my best to talk to baseball people and get legitimate information about front offices. I have said some things that it turns out were wrong...but I'm not lying about what I've been told. You don't need to believe me when I say something, or even when I predict something. But honestly I have a pretty good track record, and I'm honest and admit when I'm wrong.

No It has to do with him voting against the new commish. Rogers asked him not to

There used to be beautiful thread with many of my thoughts on AA as a GM, summed up by many posters. I'm not a guy that is going to change my opinion of a GM, who doesn't even use a laptop, because he had one great off-season. I like value, I don't think he has a clue about it. I like offensive depth, he doesn't appear to care about it. I think about the future, he understandably might not have one in baseball if he does these days. I always think teams should have a plan B, I don't think he thinks about what if it doesn't work. I don't like fat people, he is one. I could go on.

Not being AA. Honestly I don't think he's a great GM, his moves with the O's have mostly been minor ones. He turned Guthrie into Hammel (and I think Joe Saunders) which looked much better immediately after the trade but it's hardly much of an impact now. Dumping Johnson and freeing up the money to sign Cruz is obviously a good move. Tough to not love his Expos work, one great trade wasn't all that he did there...but it really is his resume maker. He probably didn't deserve to be exiled from baseball after Boston. Is he my choice for a type of GM? Nope but at least he's not known as a guy that needs a million stupid people with baseball history around him either.

I would...and might cheer for the team again.

It wasn't Rogers wanting to use the Jays to improve their image, it was a report that Rogers commissioned to an outside firm about their image and spending on the Jays was the number 1 recommendation. I think number 2 was fake a blood test to show Ed Rogers isn't really Ted's son.

There is still so much from Moneyball that is still widely ignored. As for Rowen there is still that other groundball machine that can't throw 85, Badenhop. Interesting article about the pen here http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/you-can-still-build-a-full-and-complete-bullpen/

He's really not...we just give him the benefit of doubt occasionally on account of his Mexicaness

Get it done AA prove me right

I think I have them all saved but I won't post them because of my Deck McGuire love