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Atkins took a chance that 2022 Varsho (27 hr's) is the player we would get. He may still be that guy, but this is turning out to be the worst season of his short four year career. Not fair to judge the trade based on this season alone.
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Atkins took a chance that 2022 Varsho (27 hr's) is the player we would get. He may still be that guy, but this is turning out to be the worst season of his short four year career. Not fair to judge the trade based on this season alone.

 

No its not but in a Season where you want a win a world series can justify giving him another 200 AB’s to figure it out.

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That was me lol. Obviously being facetious on twitter, but Im getting kinda fed up.

 

Lol I can’t say I blame you. The frustration is very warranted.

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Atkins took a chance that 2022 Varsho (27 hr's) is the player we would get. He may still be that guy, but this is turning out to be the worst season of his short four year career. Not fair to judge the trade based on this season alone.

 

and that's where talent evaluation comes into play, totally on Atkins and his scouts. The redflag for me was his low on base numbers - if you can't work the count, take walks the league will eventually figure you out - and they have

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I think the Springer one clearly shows the Jays issue with RISP. Double plays and easy outs when being too aggressive and Ks when the ABs don't go quickly. Dammed if you do, dammed if you dont lol
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Bottom line is that Ross traded for Varsho based on his offensive projections. This is why Ross is a turd. Berrios at least was an established MLB pitcher with a track record, unlike Varsho.
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Atkins took a chance that 2022 Varsho (27 hr's) is the player we would get. He may still be that guy, but this is turning out to be the worst season of his short four year career. Not fair to judge the trade based on this season alone.

 

Omar bud. I get it man. Its a bit unfair. But we gave up our top prospect...and a RHH LF, which we now need at the deadline. You have to be f***ing sure he is going to come close to 4.7 WAR consistently....he is a lot closer to making 1. If AA made this trade his nuts would be boiled in hot oil and fricasseed.

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No its not but in a Season where you want a win a world series can justify giving him another 200 AB’s to figure it out.

 

In win now mode all bets are off, we have to make an adjustment.

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OOA, DRS, and UZR all say he has been at least as good as Kiermaier in CF.

 

All stats that require big numbers to tell a true tale. He's hardly played in Centre. Outfielder jump, arm strength and sprint speed are more tangible skill stats that give you insight into ability. If you think Varsho is Keirmaier you're delusional. To be fair, no one is Keirmaier. In pitching terms Varsho is a number 2 pitcher on defense, a number 2 pitcher on the base paths, but he's a number 5 or swing man with the bat. Coming into things I thought he was a number 1 like Keirmaier defensively, a number 2 on the base paths and a number 3 with the bat with potential to be a number 2. I hope he can turn it around with the bat.

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I think the Springer one clearly shows the Jays issue with RISP. Double plays and easy outs when being too aggressive and Ks when the ABs don't go quickly. Dammed if you do, dammed if you dont lol

 

They just did this exactly lmao

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How are we not sending Whit in that situation. Pathetic. This team is so frustrating to watch sometimes. We need to be much more aggressive in the bases with the speed we have.
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So we're going to throw a scrub from a s*** team this year into a 2-2 game. Schneider you idiot. I'm done for the day lol

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