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Id say they both stay or both go. Don't see a split up

 

That's what I'm afraid of. With Shapiro doing good work with Rogers, I can't see him leaving anytime soon.

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Damn, just tuned in late. 10 hits given up through 5 2/3. That's ugly. Berios needs to be better.

 

More than half weak contact beating the extreme shifts. He actually pitched pretty decent

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@Lethebalfly Well hitters beating the shift still needs to be blamed on the pitcher, that's just good hitting.

 

It is, but we shift to the extreme and just pitch normally. So extreme shift to the pull side and throw fastballs and sliders away...just terrible use of the shift vs a team that is contact oriented like LAA and CHC

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Yikes, the ship is sinking , play for yourselves

 

As hard as this team is to watch, I still don't see the Twinkies or O's catching us. That extra wildcard spot is going to be a Godsend for the Jays.

 

Kinda cheapens the playoff race to be honest with all these extra playoff spots. There's really not going to be much drama going down the line... Now imagine if Rays, Jays and M's were all gunning for one or 2 spots. That would be can't miss baseball.

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It is, but we shift to the extreme and just pitch normally. So extreme shift to the pull side and throw fastballs and sliders away...just terrible use of the shift vs a team that is contact oriented like LAA and CHC

 

It's funny you say that, my buddy was going off about this last week. It's as though the pitcher/catcher are disconnected from the positions of the fielders. Very odd.

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I honestly don't remember a Jays team underperforming so badly.

 

2013 team was shite after all those big moves (Marlins trade, Melky Cab)

 

And again in 2014 (Dickey)

 

And then again for the first half of 2015 until the trade deadline.

 

And 2016 was a rough year to watch too, came down to that final game in Fenway to clinch homefield for the WC

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Ok guys seriously now.. Is Ross Atkins fired if we miss the playoffs, or is he too tightly taped to Shapiro?

 

Ross isnt going anywhere they just signed him to 5 more years

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2013 team was shite after all those big moves (Marlins trade, Melky Cab)

 

And again in 2014 (Dickey)

 

And then again for the first half of 2015 until the trade deadline.

 

And 2016 was a rough year to watch too, came down to that final game in Fenway to clinch homefield for the WC

 

Exactly. How quickly we forget hey? ;)

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It's funny you say that, my buddy was going off about this last week. It's as though the pitcher/catcher are disconnected from the positions of the fielders. Very odd.

 

Pitchers are generally against shifting, so they likely just disregard it completely.

 

Killing the shift in 2023 might help the bluejays more than the majority of teams out there

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Ross isnt going anywhere they just signed him to 5 more years

 

Never mind making the WC round, finishing over .500 will be hard enough with the difficult schedule in September.

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Pitchers are generally against shifting, so they likely just disregard it completely.

 

Killing the shift in 2023 might help the bluejays more than the majority of teams out there

 

Has that been announced? I'm against them doing this. A defense shouldn't be hamstrung from positioning effectively just because Manfred wants more scoring. Plus, they're always complaining about the length of games, I don't see how doing this is going to make it any better.

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Has that been announced? I'm against them doing this. A defense shouldn't be hamstrung from positioning effectively just because Manfred wants more scoring. Plus, they're always complaining about the length of games, I don't see how doing this is going to make it any better.

 

There have been rumblings/rumors about robo umps and no shifts for 2023, but nothing confirmed yet.

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Never mind making the WC round, finishing over .500 will be hard enough with the difficult schedule in September.

 

Man, it's just a streaky team. They could go on and put an impressive whooping for the next 4 games and all will be forgotten and rinse and repeat.

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There have been rumblings/rumors about robo umps and no shifts for 2023, but nothing confirmed yet.

 

Damn, that sucks. I'm all for the robo umps, but banning the shift just seems to be moving the game backwards.

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Has that been announced? I'm against them doing this. A defense shouldn't be hamstrung from positioning effectively just because Manfred wants more scoring. Plus, they're always complaining about the length of games, I don't see how doing this is going to make it any better.

 

Pretty much confirmed. Probably something similar to the minors test where they had to have 2 players on each side of 2B

 

I dont like it at all in general. Let defenses play how they want

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