2021 AL MVP watch Vlad Jr vs Ohtani

[bigpaulie]

This deserves its own discussion in my opinion

[BTS]

Ohtani would win even if Vlad was multiple WAR ahead of him, but they're tied right now so Vlad has no chance unless Ohtani misses a good portion of the second half.

[G-Snarls]

Ohtani would win even if Vlad was multiple WAR ahead of him, but they're tied right now so Vlad has no chance unless Ohtani misses a good portion of the second half.

 

Bang on

[BlueRocky]

Vlad has a chance at triple crown, hank aaron, silver slugger and batting title. He’ll have plenty of chances at AL MVP in the future.

[wilko]

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[Stangstag]

Ohtani would win even if Vlad was multiple WAR ahead of him, but they're tied right now so Vlad has no chance unless Ohtani misses a good portion of the second half.

 

Yeah its definitely gotta be Ohtani. Unless the Jays somehow nab first place in the division then MAYBE Vlad might win it.

 

Either way I think it will be a very close vote if both remain healthy.

[connorp]

Yeah its definitely gotta be Ohtani. Unless the Jays somehow nab first place in the division then MAYBE Vlad might win it.

 

Either way I think it will be a very close vote if both remain healthy.

 

At least you’re being reasonable. Hate to be the troll (k don’t hate it) but if Jays win the division and Angels finish below .500 it’s just facts that it matters. Not like the writers are thinking this is one and only shot to name Ohtani MVP. Vlad wins Triple Crown on top of division win, while Angels fall apart as usual.. Vlad is favorite but Ohtani still close

[Spanky99]

Ohtani would win even if Vlad was multiple WAR ahead of him, but they're tied right now so Vlad has no chance unless Ohtani misses a good portion of the second half.

 

I believe you're correct, Ohtani's publicity is through the roof as well. That's not taking anything away from VGJ. Ohtani's an alien.

[connorp]

I believe you're correct, Ohtani's publicity is through the roof as well. That's not taking anything away from VGJ. Ohtani's an alien.

 

They’re kinda licking Vlads nuts too

[connorp]

Acuna, Tatis, Vlad, and Ohtani. All deservingly so

[G-Snarls]

Vlad has a chance at triple crown, hank aaron, silver slugger and batting title. He’ll have plenty of chances at AL MVP in the future.

 

Yeah

 

I care more about him wniing games for us and getting to the post season

 

In the meantime Ohtani is putting on an amazing show for us to enjoy while his team cruises to a 4th place finish 20 games out

[Spanky99]

They’re kinda licking Vlads nuts too

 

A bit, but not at the rate Ohtani is, not close. You have merit on a triple crown and making the playoff's, but as of right now, it's Ohtani.

[Spanky99]

Acuna, Tatis, Vlad, and Ohtani. All deservingly so

 

You can put deGrom in the NL race too.

[Laika]

Vlad has a chance at triple crown, hank aaron, silver slugger and batting title. He’ll have plenty of chances at AL MVP in the future.

 

And a gold glove.

 

If season ended today Ohtani wins it and I think easily. But this one could very well come down to other things like playoff teams or even something stupid like round numbers (what if Vlad hits 50 dingers and Ohtani stalls out at 41, etc.)

 

Lots of season left.

[connorp]

And a gold glove.

 

If season ended today Ohtani wins it and I think easily. But this one could very well come down to other things like playoff teams or even something stupid like round numbers (what if Vlad hits 50 dingers and Ohtani stalls out at 41, etc.)

 

Lots of season left.

 

Don’t forget your favorite: BA

[connorp]

You can put deGrom in the NL race too.

 

Yeah, forgot. Between all of them it’s who is featured any given day. Vlad gets some mega exposure even in states nowadays

[RobinThicc]

Crazy to think Vlad will have to be even better than he's been to win it.

 

Maybe if the Jays make the playoffs and the Angels miss, it'll swing a bunch if voters in Vlads favour.

[Laika]

Don’t forget your favorite: BA

 

Very likely that Vlad will be over .300 and Ohtani will be under like .280, so I think that one is already decided.

 

BUT if Vlad somehow finished over like, .350, that's a brownie point with the old voters.

[Spanky99]

Crazy to think Vlad will have to be even better than he's been to win it.

 

Maybe if the Jays make the playoffs and the Angels miss, it'll swing a bunch if voters in Vlads favour.

 

He wouldn't have to be better per se, just be who he's been, he'll have a legit shot at MVP, no doubt. We're only at the mid-point of the season, lots of ball to go.

[The Cats Ass]

Acuna, Tatis, Vlad, and Ohtani. All deservingly so

 

I would say it's a 0% chance Acuna or Tatis win AL MVP.

[Stangstag]

I think you guys are underestimating the impact that making the postseason vs not might have in the voters’ minds. Not that I agree with it, but it has definitely been a thing in the recent MVP races.

 

If the Jays take 1st place and the Angels don’t make the postseason the votes will be very close.

 

If the Angels make the postseason somehow, Ohtani is 100% a lock.

[connorp]

Very likely that Vlad will be over .300 and Ohtani will be under like .280, so I think that one is already decided.

 

BUT if Vlad somehow finished over like, .350, that's a brownie point with the old voters.

 

I didn’t really mean H2H but say if Ohtani hits .265

[Maahfaace]

Asian sympathy vote will make up about 2.2 WAR, no chance for Vlad.

[Deadpool]

f*** it, just give it to Pedroia, it's not like he deserved it the last time he won...

[connorp]

Asian sympathy vote will make up about 2.2 WAR, no chance for Vlad.

 

Ah, this is true

[wilko]

Asian sympathy vote will make up about 2.2 WAR, no chance for Vlad.

 

[BlueRocky]

Would Ohtani win Cy Young?

[bigpaulie]

Gehrig, Williams and Klien, pretty good company for triple crown winners to not win MVP

 

Still a tragedy in my opinion, 4th player in almost 70 years to win the triple crown

[Deadpool]

Would Ohtani win Cy Young?

 

I sure f***ing hope not, he's not even close to the best pitcher in the league. He's got the same WAR as a pitcher as Flexen, just BARELY in the top 30 in the AL.

[Spanky99]

I sure f***ing hope not, he's not even close to the best pitcher in the league. He's got the same WAR as a pitcher as Flexen, just BARELY in the top 30 in the AL.

 

He's accumulated that fWAR in 20 less innings, but he ain't winning no Cy Young award.