Jays vs Angels Game 3

[Ex Player]

Everyone throws 95MPH nowadays. Our worst pitchers hit 95

My point exactly!!

[5ToolPhenom]

Ehh blowout game that's going on 4 hours... Strike zones tend to widen in those situations.

[Abomination]

Grichuk had a right to be mad there. That kind of thing by an ump should get him a fine from the league.

[Orgfiller]

Ehh blowout game that's going on 4 hours... Strike zones tend to widen in those situations.

 

There's strikezone widening, and then there's ending the game on a pitch a foot off the plate. That was inexcusable.

[Ex Player]

Gurriel is terrorizing catchers. So many hit on the backswing in the last two weeks

If you cant beat them on the front swing, you might as well beat them on the backswing

[5ToolPhenom]

There's strikezone widening, and then there's ending the game on a pitch a foot off the plate. That was inexcusable.

 

lol it is, but I see that s*** happen ALL of the time in baseball during long games that are all but over. It pisses me off cause I do prop bets and it can swing things, but it's common place in the game in those situations.

[gruber92]

Yeah, that strike call to end the game was as unprofessional as it gets. These guys are paid to do a job, being a close game or a blowout shouldn't alter their umpiring. This is the MLB FFS.

[Deadpool]

Ehh blowout game that's going on 4 hours... Strike zones tend to widen in those situations.

 

It should not. Umpires have no excuses for ever getting a strike call wrong in any situation.

[5ToolPhenom]

Yeah, that strike call to end the game was as unprofessional as it gets. These guys are paid to do a job, being a close game or a blowout shouldn't alter their umpiring. This is the MLB FFS.

 

It bugs me too. But it's been the way it is since I've been watching baseball. I remember being a little kid and having my dad always laughing and making jokes about it. Sometimes you'd have these rain delay games that would later become blowouts and you start seeing these strike calls that are a foot and a half off of the plate.

[Ex Player]

It should not. Umpires have no excuses for ever getting a strike call wrong in any situation

You really think Umps give a s*** about that when its a blowout like that??

[5ToolPhenom]

Often times you'll even hear the commentators say things like "I guess the umpire is late for his dinner plans!"

[Abomination]

It bugs me too. But it's been the way it is since I've been watching baseball. I remember being a little kid and having my dad always laughing and making jokes about it. Sometimes you'd have these rain delay games that would later become blowouts and you start seeing these strike calls that are a foot and a half off of the plate.

 

At least in those games, apparently, the ump generally warns the batter that they'd better be in swing mode. He called that at-bat normally, then bailed as soon as he saw an opportunity. That's inexcusable, and very different.

[5ToolPhenom]

You really think Umps give a s*** about that when its a blowout like that??

 

I mean, it was only 5 runs, but you have 2 outs, so the game was all but over. If you watch on replay though, Lucroy DID do a good job of framing it, so it wasn't as obvious as the pitch-trax made it out to be.

 

Either way, a little too late in the game for Grich to get so worked up... Game was already over.

[Ex Player]

Often times you'll even hear the commentators say things like "I guess the umpire is late for his dinner plans!"

Of course. They wanna go home eventually too

[Ex Player]

I mean, it was only 5 runs, but you have 2 outs, so the game was all but over

Come on now, did you really think we were gonna come back from this one??

[5ToolPhenom]

At least in those games, apparently, the ump generally warns the batter that they'd better be in swing mode. He called that at-bat normally, then bailed as soon as he saw an opportunity. That's inexcusable, and very different.

 

Yeah, I agree, but down 5 with 2 outs in the 9th inning of a long game, not really worth getting worked up over.

[5ToolPhenom]

Come on now, did you really think we were gonna come back from this one??

 

Hell no! but I have seen it before. I think the fact that the Blue Jays are total bottom feeders plays into it too. If you have the heart of the Yankees order up in that situation, you'd likely see the ump calling a tighter zone.

[gruber92]

Of course. They wanna go home eventually too

 

Come on now, did you really think we were gonna come back from this one??

 

Last time I checked, MLB umpires weren't offering their services on a voluntary basis.

[Ex Player]

Have you guys noticed that (according to his body language) Sanchez doesnt look like he gives a s*** how this season ends??

 

Or is it just me??

 

(let the flaming begin)

[Abomination]

Yeah, I agree, but down 5 with 2 outs in the 9th inning of a long game, not really worth getting worked up over.

 

It's a results-oriented business. Grichuk is in a bad funk right now, has a great at-bat to work the walk, and instead has it taken away because the ump decides he's had enough. He has every right to be mad. The pitch wasn't even remotely close.

[Ex Player]

Last time I checked, MLB umpires weren't offering their services on a voluntary basis

That doesnt change the fact that even umpires are human, and even they wanna get back to their hotel room early

[5ToolPhenom]

It's a results-oriented business. Grichuk is in a bad funk right now, has a great at-bat to work the walk, and instead has it taken away because the ump decides he's had enough. He has every right to be mad. The pitch wasn't even remotely close.

 

Come on man, it's not like Grich is some guy on the outskirts, grinding away for an opportunity for a job. If it's some rook or whatever, I'm sure the ump gives him the walk.

 

But look, I'm sorta just playing devils advocate here. I don't hold it against him for being pissed, I don't think there's a player alive who probably wouldn't at least shake their head to display their disapproval. But I notice a lot of the young Jays (Telez being the most glaring example) who are always protesting called strikes that are clearly obvious strikes, so as one of the more experienced players on the team, he should be cognizant of setting an example... Especially considering that there was no likely chance of a comeback.

[Abomination]

Come on man, it's not like Grich is some guy on the outskirts, grinding away for an opportunity for a job. If it's some rook or whatever, I'm sure the ump gives him the walk.

 

The calls against the rookie batters that we've been seeing would seem to disagree with this assessment. Trout probably gets the walk though.

[5ToolPhenom]

Ehhh, maybe you're right. I think I'm just burnt out from cheering for this team, so I find it hard to get worked up when a call goes against em.

 

I was excited about watching some of the blue-chippers come up and develop, but the supporting cast that Atkins has built around them have been nearly unwatchable.

[Ex Player]

The calls against the rookie batters that we've been seeing would seem to disagree with this assessment

Calls against rookies have been going against them since kumbaya, and they will continue to go against them till kumbaya

[Jonn]

I feel really bad for the people attending these games.

[Orgfiller]

If you cant beat them on the front swing, you might as well beat them on the backswing

 

He's done both too. He rocked the Rays' catcher on his homerun at the Trop off Blake Snell.

[Boxcar]

Ehhh, maybe you're right. I think I'm just burnt out from cheering for this team, so I find it hard to get worked up when a call goes against em.

 

I was excited about watching some of the blue-chippers come up and develop, but the supporting cast that Atkins has built around them have been nearly unwatchable.

 

I believe it is actually the blue chippers themselves that are unwatchable

[DigitalRock]

Have you guys noticed that (according to his body language) Sanchez doesnt look like he gives a s*** how this season ends??

 

Or is it just me??

 

(let the flaming begin)

 

His body language says "I don't give a s***".

[Deadpool]

You really think Umps give a s*** about that when its a blowout like that??

 

Then it's time for them to go. We have the technology to ensure that not a single strike call is wrong, and yet we're relying on petulant children? I'll go with the robot overlords, thanks.