Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Also dont forget AA is the reason we suck. He traded Synder for Dickey. This is on AA Atkins on the other hand made us very very strong on position players after acquiring Drury and Mckinney for Happ. He said so himself. He said its virtually impossible to upgrade the position players on this team
BlueRocky Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 At least we aren't the Orioles....... uh..... hmmm..... cries
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Also dont forget AA is the reason we suck. He traded Synder for Dickey. This is on AA Atkins on the other hand made us very very strong on position players after acquiring Drury and Mckinney for Happ. He said so himself. He said its virtually impossible to upgrade the position players on this team That trade sucked but it would take a lot more than Thor’s hammer to rebuild this team. On the other hand AA did go all I’m on Vlad Jr signing and we are lucky to have him.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Im ready to see SRF give up a 10 spot rather than seeing garbage
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Dogg trolling hard in the paint again.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 That trade sucked but it would take a lot more than Thor’s hammer to rebuild this team. On the other hand AA did go all I’m on Vlad Jr signing and we are lucky to have him. The Donaldson trade, the 100% dumping of the Vernon Wells contract and the IFA signing of Vladdy Jr alone will conquer anything that Atkins will ever do in his lifetime.
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Author Posted June 9, 2019 My first GDT ended badly. Sorry guys, I hang my head in shame.
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Author Posted June 9, 2019 Richard has that same passive deer in the headlights daze on his face like Drury has. What an absolute disaster of a 25 man assembly, can't wait for Atkins to f*** off. It is looking pretty bad right now, they must be praying for a better second half of the season.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 The Donaldson trade, the 100% dumping of the Vernon Wells contract and the IFA signing of Vladdy Jr alone will conquer anything that Atkins will ever do in his lifetime. I thought they were gonna be magicians. Major fanboy anticipation. Not ready to write them off yet but to date I’m not overly impressed. I just wonder how badly Rogers ties their hands.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Why on earth would you have a pitcher throw an extended session before a day game that he was almost certain to be needed in? That seems like a good way to injure someone.
Jaysareus Verified Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 The Donaldson trade, the 100% dumping of the Vernon Wells contract and the IFA signing of Vladdy Jr alone will conquer anything that Atkins will ever do in his lifetime. Balanced by the trades that brought over Dickey Jose Reyes and the rest of those clowns. That was a disaster
Jaysareus Verified Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 June 28 they're giving away a Randall grichuk doll
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 I thought they were gonna be magicians. Major fanboy anticipation. Not ready to write them off yet but to date I’m not overly impressed. I just wonder how badly Rogers ties their hands. I'm nowhere near ready to write off Shapiro, he drafts well and is respected around the league. Atkins on the other hand..
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Don’t we have like 900 games left against the AL east in the schedule? It’s not going to get any easier is it.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 I'm nowhere near ready to write off Shapiro, he drafts well and is respected around the league. Atkins on the other hand.. Oh so Atkins has nothing to do with the drafting at all? Ok, cool.
Superdood Verified Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 This has to be the most unwatchable 25 man group assembled in Jays history. All I wanna see is the young kids do decently and continue to get better and hopefully we end up with a top 5 pick in next years draft. If/when they move out Stroman/Smoak etc. I hope they hit a couple of HR's on the returns. Eric Sogard has the highest batting average in the lineup today by a lot... that's just depressing lol
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Author Posted June 9, 2019 June 28 they're giving away a Randall grichuk doll Sex doll?
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Author Posted June 9, 2019 Don’t we have like 900 games left against the AL east in the schedule? It’s not going to get any easier is it. Nope...
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Author Posted June 9, 2019 Gurriel at least doing something.
Ex Player Verified Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Jansen with 2 hits is at least a positive sign
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Oh so Atkins has nothing to do with the drafting at all? Ok, cool. Not much.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Not much. So, according to you, the president does but the GM doesn't?
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 So, according to you, the president does but the GM doesn't? Shapiro controls the draft, along with the scouting department of course. There are certain provisions Shapiro implemented to the acting GM, and one is that he gets final say regarding the draft as one of them. Atkins was given the reigns regarding the 25 man construction, that's pretty much it. Why do you think AA left?
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2019 Posted June 9, 2019 Shapiro controls the draft, along with the scouting department of course. There are certain provisions Shapiro implemented to the acting GM, and one is that he gets final say regarding the draft as one of them. Atkins was given the reigns regarding the 25 man construction, that's pretty much it. Why do you think AA left? Damn that's some great insider info. I had no idea. P2F, get this man on radio scouts STAT
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 I'm nowhere near ready to write off Shapiro, he drafts well and is respected around the league. Atkins on the other hand.. Who hired Atkins?
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Shapiro controls the draft, along with the scouting department of course. There are certain provisions Shapiro implemented to the acting GM, and one is that he gets final say regarding the draft as one of them. Atkins was given the reigns regarding the 25 man construction, that's pretty much it. Why do you think AA left? Pretty obvious why AA left. He was sitting on a house of cards and bailed before it came tumbling down. Oh yeah, aside from that, lol @ this whole post
5ToolPhenom Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 I thought they were gonna be magicians. Major fanboy anticipation. Not ready to write them off yet but to date I’m not overly impressed. I just wonder how badly Rogers ties their hands. I'm personally not seeing what all the hype is about regarding Shapiro and Atkins. They seem pretty run of the mill and by the books. Nothing inherently wrong with that, but I haven't seen much creativity in the roster structure or the in game strategy. Most of the bats they've brought in have been one dimensional. I realize there's a few kids who might pan out, but you need to have a decent roster to implement around them. And I think maybe most importantly, the pitching pipeline looks sparse. Their game-plan of being competitive in 2020 looks like a pipe-dream. Looking at the roster structure, it's hard to imagine this team being good any time soon.
5ToolPhenom Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Pretty obvious why AA left. He was sitting on a house of cards and bailed before it came tumbling down. I doubt that. It's pretty clear that he was very loyal to Beeston and I don't think it's far fetched to assume that his ego couldn't take the initial dressing down from Shapiro
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