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He needs to be sent down after this one.

 

Yep enough is enough now, He needs to go down and figure s*** out

 

No point in wasting Hutch. Once Sanchez is at max innings, then they can look at bringing him back up

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Stroman has to go back to being a 4 seam pitcher. He can not control the 2 seam. It's very similar to Sanchez last season. Can't throw it for a strike and when he does its up and moving more sideways then down.
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Stroman has to go back to being a 4 seam pitcher. He can not control the 2 seam. It's very similar to Sanchez last season. Can't throw it for a strike and when he does its up and moving more sideways then down.

 

I couldn't agree more man. Hayhurst could be correct, muscle confusion from his 2SM grip/toss is affecting his other pitches. He needs to go back to doing what brought him to the dance.

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That can be said about the offense today as well.

 

That can be said for just about any offence against Sale.

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That can be said about the offense today as well.

 

When Sanchez dominates a start, he's great. When a proven elite starter dominates the Jays, the batting lineup sucks.

 

A lot of posters need some perspective on this game. And when I say 'game' I mean baseball in general and not just June 26 @ the White Sox.

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That can be said for just about any offence against Sale.

 

This month KC and Detroit had a combined 20 hits and 9 runs off Sale in 12 innings...so he hasn't been that good. Heck those outings are very similar to Stroman today.

 

Edit: towards the end of May the Indians scored 6 runs on 7 hits and 4 walks in 3.1 innings on Sale. Guy is not unhittable

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Here we go again with the pulling and another DP, nobody was covering the right part, all he had to do is to wait on it and go the other way
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When Sanchez dominates a start, he's great. When a proven elite starter dominates the Jays, the batting lineup sucks.

 

A lot of posters need some perspective on this game. And when I say 'game' I mean baseball in general and not just June 26 @ the White Sox.

 

Yes some need perspective. If a pitcher continuously throws the ball outside and 8/9 hitters keep pulling the ball for gb outs. The pitcher didn't do a great job...the hitters did a horrible job.

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Yes some need perspective. If a pitcher continuously throws the ball outside and 8/9 hitters keep pulling the ball for gb outs. The pitcher didn't do a great job...the hitters did a horrible job.

 

Yeah, you're right. These professional hitters are all terrible. Sale couldn't possibly be deceptive, couldn't possibly be exploiting a strategy that has fuelled seasons worth of Cy-calibre performance.

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Did Stroman ever use a 4-seam in this game? When did he start using this 2-seam?

 

He did not throw a 4 seam from what I saw...and if you mean overall on the 2 seam...it was about a month or two after he came back up in his rookie season if I remember correctly.

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Yeah, you're right. These professional hitters are all terrible. Sale couldn't possibly be deceptive, couldn't possibly be exploiting a strategy that has fuelled seasons worth of Cy-calibre performance.

 

Sale isn't using the Philosophy from his Cy caliber seasons. He is using Stroman's philosophy of pitch to contact. According to you no one ever gets a hit off an ace. It's like these professional hitters are just bricks that are at the mercy of the amazing pitcher

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The approach from yesterday seems to have gone MIA

 

This is one of the most homer posts I've ever read. You're comparing the results of starts between Chris Sale and Miguel Gonzalez, who the Orioles didn't even want.

 

Sale isn't using the Philosophy from his Cy caliber seasons. He is using Stroman's philosophy of pitch to contact. According to you no one ever gets a hit off an ace. It's like these professional hitters are just bricks that are at the mercy of the amazing pitcher

 

And maybe because Sale is an elite talent he is better at executing whatever strategy he wants. And btw, he has 7Ks today. He can very much just do whatever he wants.

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This is one of the most homer posts I've ever read. You're comparing the results of starts between Chris Sale and Miguel Gonzalez, who the Orioles didn't even want.

 

 

 

And maybe because Sale is an elite talent he is better at executing whatever strategy he wants. And btw, he has 7Ks today.

 

It's like you are ignoring what I am saying and making it up to fit your own agenda

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