SultanofPoon Verified Member Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Hello!! Wake up Poon, my point is, he,s been a defensive liability from day one with the Jays. And I said his offense and speed used to be enough to make up for it, now it isn't. ...you slow or something? Lol.
polar bear Verified Member Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 And I said his offense and speed used to be enough to make up for it, now it isn't. ...you slow or something? Lol. A few steps in front of apparently.anyway enough of this stupid conversation. We all want what's best for the Jays.Have a nice day Poon.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 LMAO Dude cant even play straight grounders anymore.
frizzer1 Verified Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 By all accounts his defense was already on the wane before we acquired him. First article about him that I read after the trade, said that he was not as good defensively as Escobar but had a good arm.. Offensively it said that he was a triples machine and sparkplug....hmm..
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 There's no words. I dont care what WAR says, Reyes alone has cost the Jays division this year. Its just one f*** up after another throwing games right down the toilet.
Ehjays Verified Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 WE come back from 7-0 only to have one guy throw it away
Swervin81 Verified Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 If Reyes isn't benched for the next deries in its entirety, I'm honestly done with Gibbons managing this team. Anything short of that is a severe lack of accountability. He clearly looks so ho hum and doesn't seem to give a f*** about it either.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 ^Gibbons doesn't have the guts to bench Reyes, or tell Reyes to go play LF>
Swervin81 Verified Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 ^Gibbons doesn't have the guts to bench Reyes, or tell Reyes to go play LF> Yup. He seems to have been neutered by the Lilly/Hillebrand incidents. If this was 2005 Gibbons, Reyes would probably have been punched in the face by Gibbons. Unfortunately, this is 2015 Gibbons.
goeb Verified Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I dont care what WAR says, Reyes alone has cost the Jays division this year. Its just one f*** up after another throwing games right down the toilet. I highly doubt it...he isn't helping the jays cause, but I'm sure we can all agree it is the rotation that is the main culprit. I under I udnerstand though that some fans on here let their fervor get the best of them though at times .
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) ^Gibbons doesn't have the guts to bench Reyes, or tell Reyes to go play LF> there's no way Gibbons can do anything with Reyes without Alex's approval, since AA's the one who brought the "superstar" here and got Rogers to buy into the Miami trade by boosting payroll significantly. Edited July 12, 2015 by CrackerJack
Zaun of the Dead Verified Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 yeah, there's no way rogers is gonna pay the guy 20 mil to not play.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 yeah, there's no way rogers is gonna pay the guy 20 mil to not play. 22M for the next 3 years He is Jeteresque. Jeter didn't make very many plays at the end of his career, but Jeter didn't let grounders go through his legs.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 22M for the next 3 years He is Jeteresque. Jeter didn't make very many plays at the end of his career, but Jeter didn't let grounders go through his legs. He's a great leadoff hitter though, #.300 OBP.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 the thing that REALLY gets to me is that he looks like he is Hollywood-ing plays. if he actually puts in an effort he makes more of the plays, but he wants it to look like he's doing it effortlessly. I'd rather see him bust a nut and make the play!!!
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I still dont understand the Marlins trade. I just dont get why AA didn't do the proper f***ing player evaluation.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I still dont understand the Marlins trade. I just dont get why AA didn't do the proper f***ing player evaluation. He traded two short-stops, one making $5m a year with two team options and another Cuban signing with six years of control left, for one that was 30 and owed nearly $100m over the next five years. It made absolutely no sense financially or from a player evaluation standpoint. Reyes would have had to have been worth 5-10 wins more than Escobar for that to make sense, and without looking it up, I'd be surprised if Reyes was worth more than a win above Escobar since the trade happened. Nevermind Hechavarria. The Marlins trade does not get the flack that it deserves due to the trades that happened before (Gomes) and after (Dickey). That trade was horrendous at the time, and worse in hindsight.
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 He traded two short-stops, one making $5m a year with two team options and another Cuban signing with six years of control left, for one that was 30 and owed nearly $100m over the next five years. It made absolutely no sense financially or from a player evaluation standpoint. Reyes would have had to have been worth 5-10 wins more than Escobar for that to make sense, and without looking it up, I'd be surprised if Reyes was worth more than a win above Escobar since the trade happened. Nevermind Hechavarria. The Marlins trade does not get the flack that it deserves due to the trades that happened before (Gomes) and after (Dickey). That trade was horrendous at the time, and worse in hindsight. I was against that trade at the time, but in the interest of fairness, I do give AA a break on Escobar since he was likely ordered to release him and he tried to at least get rid of his contract. Why? Because of the homophobic slur. The fact that the Marlins got rid of him almost immediately tells me they only took his salary off the Jays's hands instead of sending more cash over.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I liked how AA wouldn't have made that trade unless Bonafacio was included. Beautiful.
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Gibbons has no choince but to play Reyes at shortstop (as was already clearly apparent.) Tony LaCava told Jeff Blair that the front office will try to trade Reyes this offseason (obviously with the Jays having to eat some serious coin) and ... for that reason ... since Reyes' offensive numbers (tho down this year) look better at the shortstop position that's where they're keeping him.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Gibbons has no choince but to play Reyes at shortstop (as was already clearly apparent.) Tony LaCava told Jeff Blair that the front office will try to trade Reyes this offseason (obviously with the Jays having to eat some serious coin) and ... for that reason ... since Reyes' offensive numbers (tho down this year) look better at the shortstop position that's where they're keeping him. Link?
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Link? heard Jeff Blair talk about it on Prime Time Sports (the Fan 590) this afternoon. the only part I added myself was obviously the Jays will have to eat some serious coin.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 heard Jeff Blair talk about it on Prime Time Sports (the Fan 590) this afternoon. the only part I added myself was obviously the Jays will have to eat some serious coin. LaCava an idiot if true
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Link? oh, so there's no confusion, LaCava wasn't a guest on the show. Blair said "Tony LaCava told me ..." (FWIW)
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 link to the show? It'll be on SN.ca/vids brah PTS.
LTR Verified Member Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 Rejoice my brothers, were f***ing free of that clown at last!
Swervin81 Verified Member Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 The oxygen deprivation in Coors Field might do him more harm than good now.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Thank God. I rather cheer for an injured Tolu then a healthy Reyes. God I hate him and his smile. f***ing Throws the ball way, then gives a wide grin like he just cured cancer. Howarth was absoloutely right about him. Doesn't care, and just loses concentration. Cancer in the clubhouse, openly fighting Donaldson in the field. Separating players by promoting racial differences. Im glad he is gone. Today begins a new era for the Bluejays.
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