Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 The media is pushing this hard, lets talk about how this will end http://www.tsn.ca/two-kids-have-legitimate-shot-at-bullpen-1.225630
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 How pissed will New Hampshire be if both Osuna and Castro skip AA this year?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 How pissed will New Hampshire be if both Osuna and Castro skip AA this year? It just seems like such a waste to me. There are plenty of good bullpen only candidates that could make this team. There's just no reason to burn option year on top starting prospects. It would be poor asset management and would kind of reek of desperation.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 It just seems like such a waste to me. There are plenty of good bullpen only candidates that could make this team. There's just no reason to burn option year on top starting prospects. It would be poor asset management and would kind of reek of desperation. would it be bad asset management if the jays win 100 games and go on to win the world series?
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 would it be bad asset management if the jays win 100 games and go on to win the world series? How are you a mod?
GD Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 would it be bad asset management if the jays win 100 games and go on to win the world series? Isn't this the logic Cards fans use to justify the Rasmus deal?
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Isn't this the logic Cards fans use to justify the Rasmus deal? lol, yes
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 the OP's question is how will this end Osuna joins the club mid August makes a few spot starts and BP relief stints Castro starts in Dunedin, ends season in Buffalo
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 would it be bad asset management if the jays win 100 games and go on to win the world series? That's irrelevant. Wasting these guys in bullpen roles when the Matt Wests of the world can likely perform just as well is pointless.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 How are you a mod? it was a question and I think many here change their views depending on results. I dont think they should both or possibly either make the team in April.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 That's irrelevant. Wasting these guys in bullpen roles when the Matt Wests of the world can likely perform just as well is pointless. I dont think it is wrong to use one or both at some point this year, but I'd go with other options to start the year. see what you have without them first.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 I don't believe Osuna will see the pen, too valuable an asset to give up on as a starting pitcher. He's the right handed version of Urias
Ultimate Verified Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Isn't this the logic Cards fans use to justify the Rasmus deal? Do we still think we won the Rasmus deal?
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Do we still think we won the Rasmus deal? Nobody won or lost the Rasmus deal.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 That's irrelevant. Wasting these guys in bullpen roles when the Matt Wests of the world can likely perform just as well is pointless. Why don't you just marry Matt West already
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Castro makes the team and sticks in the bullpen for good. Osuna goes back to the minors and continues to start.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 They seem to be in love with Castro as a reliever so i don't think he will get much chance to be a starter which i see as a waste.... If that is the case then i think he could make the team out of April...... No way Osuna makes the team out of April considering he only had 34 inning last season and still has things to work on and stretch out.... Soonest this season is september call ups.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 They seem to be in love with Castro as a reliever so i don't think he will get much chance to be a starter which i see as a waste.... If that is the case then i think he could make the team out of April...... No way Osuna makes the team out of April considering he only had 34 inning last season and still has things to work on and stretch out.... Soonest this season is september call ups. I agree, barring injuries from the starting pitchers (Buehrle, Dickey, Hutch, Stro and Norris) I think we won't see him until sept edit: If that
Travis_Snider Verified Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 " The fastball consistently hits the mid-90s miles per hour." derp
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Why don't you just marry Matt West already lol. I was just using him as an example. Matt West could suck for all I know. I'm just saying that there are a bunch of these kinds of guys who could potentially provide as much value in a bullpen role as the starter prospects. If not Matt West than Wilton Lopez or Greg Infante. The point is you can find effective relievers without burning your top starting prospects. If Castro and Osuna were in the high minors just knocking on the door and you didn't have anywhere else to play them, it would be a different story but that's hardly the case.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 lol. I was just using him as an example. Matt West could suck for all I know. I'm just saying that there are a bunch of these kinds of guys who could potentially provide as much value in a bullpen role as the starter prospects. If not Matt West than Wilton Lopez or Greg Infante. The point is you can find effective relievers without burning your top starting prospects. If Castro and Osuna were in the high minors just knocking on the door and you didn't have anywhere else to play them, it would be a different story but that's hardly the case. I think guys like West and Guilmet are good bets to be better than Castro and Osuna. I'd expect those kids to get destroyed in the majors this year.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 I think guys like West and Guilmet are good bets to be better than Castro and Osuna. I'd expect those kids to get destroyed in the majors this year. I don't necessarily disagree but you don't know that
GD Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I don't necessarily disagree but you don't know that Ok, we don't KNOW that Pillar won't outperform Bautista. But we use the best information that we can to make decisions.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I don't necessarily disagree but you don't know that You could post this in response to anything posted on this forum. Thanks for not doing that though.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 would it be bad asset management if the jays win 100 games and go on to win the world series? Dodgers or Nats don't win 100 games, never mind the Jays.
BlueJaysGirl Verified Member Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 Why don't you just marry Matt West already I would, if he hadn't cut that gorgeous mane of his.
BTS Community Moderator Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I would, if he hadn't cut that gorgeous mane of his.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted March 8, 2015 Author Posted March 8, 2015 Ok, we don't KNOW that Pillar won't outperform Bautista. But we use the best information that we can to make decisions. how is that an equivalent of the argument BTS made?
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