Jays raise ticket prices...

[TheHurl]

I was speaking from a fan's perspective, not the owners

 

and you don't actually know the Jays make money. Those details are not available, so don't claim to know something you are not privy to

 

Yes they are...just not transparent or including everything.

Edited October 24, 2014 by TheHurl

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

How do you define a below average product anyway? They've been a winning team for the majority of those years.

 

Longest active playoff drought in the MLB, but hooray for mediocrity!

[shortstop]

I personally don't care how you measure it, but from an mlb organizations perspective, this is not success:

 

From wiki:

 

Longest current postseason drought

 

28† Kansas City Royals 1985 World Series

20 Toronto Blue Jays 1993 World Series

12 Seattle Mariners 2001 ALCS

10 Miami Marlins 2003 World Series

8 Houston Astros 2005 World Series

7 San Diego Padres 2006 NLDS

7 New York Mets 2006 NLCS

5 Chicago White Sox 2008 ALDS

5 Chicago Cubs 2008 NLDS

4 Colorado Rockies 2009 NLDS

4† Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 2009 ALCS

3 Minnesota Twins 2010 ALDS

2 Arizona Diamondbacks 2011 NLDS

2 Philadelphia Phillies 2011 NLDS

2 Milwaukee Brewers 2011 NLCS

1 Texas Rangers 2012 AL Wild Card

1† Baltimore Orioles 2012 ALDS

1† Washington Nationals 2012 NLDS

1 New York Yankees 2012 ALCS

1† San Francisco Giants 2012 World Series

0 Cincinnati Reds 2013 NL Wild Card

0 Cleveland Indians 2013 AL Wild Card

0 Atlanta Braves 2013 NLDS

0† Oakland Athletics 2013 ALDS

0† Pittsburgh Pirates 2013 NLDS

0 Tampa Bay Rays 2013 ALDS

0† Detroit Tigers 2013 ALCS

0† Los Angeles Dodgers 2013 NLCS

0† St. Louis Cardinals 2013 World Series

0 Boston Red Sox 2013 World Series

[Pulk_Pull]

While the inflation argument holds, the optics of raising ticket prices is a real downer given how the past season played out, where on multiple occasions ownerships investment in the Jays was questioned.

 

Looking at ticket averages is a fallacy given the sheer size of the 500 level and other costs around the park.

 

"In 2014, Jays’ ticket prices were below league average. But their fan cost index — a measure that looks at the total expense for a family of four to attend a game — was $5 higher than the MLB average (mostly due to higher parking costs)." http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2014/10/23/blue_jays_increase_ticket_prices_for_2015.html

 

Furthermore, while winning may be the best way to attract fans, slight ticket increases will hurt attendance when this club ultimately fails again. Come late August when a family of four wants to go to the game and tickets cost ~$20 more for 4 (which would of been the parking expense) you may second guess going.

 

If the club is doing well, then these slight increases will only mean a larger bottom line for Rogers; if this team does poorly, I fully expect attendance and consumer confidence in this team to continue to decrease.

[LongTimeReader]

I personally don't care how you measure it, but from an mlb organizations perspective, this is not success:

 

From wiki:

 

Longest current postseason drought

 

28† Kansas City Royals 1985 World Series

20 Toronto Blue Jays 1993 World Series

12 Seattle Mariners 2001 ALCS

10 Miami Marlins 2003 World Series

8 Houston Astros 2005 World Series

7 San Diego Padres 2006 NLDS

7 New York Mets 2006 NLCS

5 Chicago White Sox 2008 ALDS

5 Chicago Cubs 2008 NLDS

4 Colorado Rockies 2009 NLDS

4† Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim 2009 ALCS

3 Minnesota Twins 2010 ALDS

2 Arizona Diamondbacks 2011 NLDS

2 Philadelphia Phillies 2011 NLDS

2 Milwaukee Brewers 2011 NLCS

1 Texas Rangers 2012 AL Wild Card

1† Baltimore Orioles 2012 ALDS

1† Washington Nationals 2012 NLDS

1 New York Yankees 2012 ALCS

1† San Francisco Giants 2012 World Series

0 Cincinnati Reds 2013 NL Wild Card

0 Cleveland Indians 2013 AL Wild Card

0 Atlanta Braves 2013 NLDS

0† Oakland Athletics 2013 ALDS

0† Pittsburgh Pirates 2013 NLDS

0 Tampa Bay Rays 2013 ALDS

0† Detroit Tigers 2013 ALCS

0† Los Angeles Dodgers 2013 NLCS

0† St. Louis Cardinals 2013 World Series

0 Boston Red Sox 2013 World Series

 

Good god, when you put it like that it's f***ing depressing... and the end is not nigh

[wardhenke1]

To me the Jays choosing to raise ticket prices is largely irrelevant. The product over the last 20+ years has been poor, there is no denying that. Finishing above 3rd once in the division, let alone never making the playoffs, is old LA Clippers poor and while the payroll has increased during the last 2 years the results/standings have not improved.

 

Logically then what should happen? Payroll could either be increased in a Yankees/Dodgers attempt to buy a championship or (more realistically) the payroll should be reduced, ticket prices raised and changes made to the core of the team. Why pay $140m for a loser?

[Dylan]

Looking to make a baseball roadtrip next summer. I'm tired of watching games in the quiet RC with a terrible atmosphere, that has seen no change in 10+ years.