GDT(1/2): Toronto Blue Jays @ Milwaukee Brewers - Happ vs. Fiers - 8:10 PM ET

[comeon sense]

Jaystalk should be a hoooot.

[immature]

Jaystalk should be a hoooot.

 

First caller posed a lot of good questions and points. Wilner of course ignores anything related to AA and the overall direction of the team.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

The last two times the Jays dramatically increased payroll, it resulted in underachievement.

 

Both times, they were managed by John Gibbons.

 

Just saying.

 

That 2006 team was good but they had zero pitching depth. Towers/Taubenheim/Chacin combined to start 36 games for them that year. If JP had gone out and gotten one more starter they're probably a 90+ win team. Gibby wasn't at fault there.

 

That still bothers me to this day though. They were probably one pitcher away from being a real contender but nothing was done about it. We were 57-48 at the deadline but no reinforcements were brought in (similar to this year ha)

[comeon sense]

First caller posed a lot of good questions and points. Wilner of course ignores anything related to AA and the overall direction of the team.

It would be great if they replaced wilner with........

Roger Lajoie

[burlingtonbandit]

First caller posed a lot of good questions and points. Wilner of course ignores anything related to AA and the overall direction of the team.

 

Please tell me Wilner didn't keep saying the Jays have a chance..

[immature]

His optimism hasn't abated. He categorically stated the jays are still in it and talk of the season being out of reach was nonsense. One of his better quotes of the night was him saying its not AA fault, all the blame should be on the players for not performing.

[burlingtonbandit]

His optimism hasn't abated. He categorically stated the jays are still in it and talk of the season being out of reach was nonsense. One of his better quotes of the night was him saying its not AA fault, all the blame should be on the players for not performing.

 

One of these days I actually want to call in and tell him all the things that are wrong. Although I can tell by listening that he does it on purpose to disagree with almost every caller just to stir things up.

[glory]

That 2006 team was good but they had zero pitching depth. Towers/Taubenheim/Chacin combined to start 36 games for them that year. If JP had gone out and gotten one more starter they're probably a 90+ win team. Gibby wasn't at fault there.

 

That still bothers me to this day though. They were probably one pitcher away from being a real contender but nothing was done about it. We were 57-48 at the deadline but no reinforcements were brought in (similar to this year ha)

 

Gibbons also got into two fights that year, with Hillenbrand and Lilly. That team should have made the playoffs, or at least been a lot closer. Then they were barely over .500 in 2007 and did not go on a run in 2008 until Cito took over.

 

Same s*** here. Rogers finally decides to spend, Gibby is manager, and they'll probably finish below .500 both years (looking like a free fall is imminent).

 

For all the talk of Gibbons making the right baseball moves, his teams never overachieve (like Showalter's teams, for example). At some point, you have to start questioning something he is doing. These guys aren't robots.