ITT: We give AA props on good decisions he made

[Spoonovic]

AA gets a lot of criticism and most of it is deserved. But there is no doubt that he has made some good decisions.

 

-Signing Bautista to one of the best deals in baseball. If he waited till the end of the 2011 season to extend Bautista instead of spring training, it would have probably cost the team another $50 million.

-Signing EE to one of the best deals in baseball

-Rasmus Trade

-Santos trade (Molina is worse).

-Getting rid of the Wells contract

-Not extending a qualifying offer to Josh Johnson even though everyone wanted him to.

-Trading for Yunel Escobar

-Brett Wallace for Gose (Gose is a 4th OFer at worst right now while Wallace isn't a major league player)

-Marcum for Lawrie

 

 

AA used to trade rape other GMs.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Miguel Olivo for draft pick trade was neat

 

It's pretty much been confirmed though by some insiders on here that AA had several of those deals fall into his lap. If those people want to confirm this then they can.

[Convo]

Sending JPA packing was a wise decision.

 

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/086/0/4/captain_obvious_by_paratheses-d3cmwa3.jpg

[TDotttt2005]

Getting that 2nd year for Melky's contract. Actually that worked out for both sides. Jays actually get something out of the deal, since the 1st year was crap due to tumor. Melky, had he signed a 1-year deal, wouldve been a free agent after spine surgery to remove a tumor. That doesnt exactly scream multi-year contract...and he probably wouldve ended up on a 1-year deal making less than the $8M now.

[Mac Outlaw]

However he got Juan Francisco.

[Caper]

Little things this year and a year ago have helped. Since he got burned so bad with his pen of Frankie Francisco, Jon Rauch and Francisco Cordero (2012)... he has worked pretty hard to keep arms in triple A and at the big league level he can call on.

[SAAviour]

He hasn't got much credit for it this year, but he's built a pretty good bench to.

Francisco, tolesson, Kratz, pillar/Gose...

 

Not bad.

[Deadpool]

Actually getting pieces of value for Halladay, after Doc had made it clear that he had no intention of staying in Toronto.

[Anemic0ffense]

Yeah. He's definitely not the worst GM ever like some on here would make you believe.

[ElNik2013]

Hiring EE as super scout and signing Francisco.

[Olerud363]

AA gets a lot of criticism and most of it is deserved. But there is no doubt that he has made some good decisions.

 

-Signing Bautista to one of the best deals in baseball. If he waited till the end of the 2011 season to extend Bautista instead of spring training, it would have probably cost the team another $50 million.

-Signing EE to one of the best deals in baseball

-Rasmus Trade

-Santos trade (Molina is worse).

-Getting rid of the Wells contract

-Not extending a qualifying offer to Josh Johnson even though everyone wanted him to.

-Trading for Yunel Escobar

-Brett Wallace for Gose (Gose is a 4th OFer at worst right now while Wallace isn't a major league player)

-Marcum for Lawrie

 

 

AA used to trade rape other GMs.

 

- Hiring Gibby

- Francisco (so far)

- Stroman??

- Kawasaki.

 

I like the Lawrie/Francisco/Tolleson platoon. I like the offense this year. You mention most of the big positive AA moves, Bautista and EE etc.. Those were good.

[G-Snarls]

Optioning Hendriks to Buffalo to let Stroman stay a while

[G-Snarls]

- Hiring Gibby

- Francisco (so far)

- Stroman??

- Kawasaki.

 

I like the Lawrie/Francisco/Tolleson platoon. I like the offense this year. You mention most of the big positive AA moves, Bautista and EE etc.. Those were good.

 

I'm pretty sure the Francisco/Lawrie/Tolleson platoon is all Gibby

[ElNik2013]

I'm pretty sure the Francisco/Lawrie/Tolleson platoon is all Gibby

 

 

I don't know, gotta give him credit for getting Francisco and Tolleson. And if you think this is all Gibby, you also have to think Goins is Gibby a big part since Seitzer is his buddy and they thought they could get him to hit better.

 

Over all, what you can do is give them both credit for maximizing the roster they have put together. We'll see how it plays out.

[Caper]

I'm an AA defender. But he got lucky on two guys not being here. Maicer Izturis and Mark DeRosa not blocking guys from coming up from Buffalo, helps a lot.

[G-Snarls]

He hasn't got much credit for it this year, but he's built a pretty good bench to.

Francisco, tolesson, Kratz, pillar/Gose...

 

Not bad.

 

To start the season the bench was Thole, Sierra and Izturis

 

It is MUCH improved

[Olerud363]

I'm pretty sure the Francisco/Lawrie/Tolleson platoon is all Gibby

 

I guess no one really knows the Beeston/AA/Gibby dynamics.

 

Maybe it was Beeston's idea.

 

Beeston - "So I was on Netflix and there was this movie "Moneyball", it's a few years old... it's about this guy Billy Beane... anyway it blew my mind so I got these books by this other guy Bill James. This Bill James guy is like from my generation, but he was all into numbers and s***. Anyway I've been up 72 hours straight reading this s***. NOBODY f***ING TOLD ME ABOUT THIS BEFORE?? I'M AN ACCOUNTANT FOR CHRIST SAKES!! I LOVE THIS KIND OF s***! NUMBERS!! NOBODY BOTHERED TO TELL ME?? THAT'S YOUR f***ING JOB FOLKS!! TELL ME THE s*** THAT'S GOING ON!

 

Sorry for the rage, but you guys really should of told about this 25 years ago. Anyway all this stuff got me to thinkiing. This on base percentage is pretty important right?? And the platoons. Left handed hitters hit better against righties. And defense, the scouts over rate it at times. So what about this... Lawrie shifts to second against righties to let Francisco play?? What do you guys think?? Gibby??? AA??? Not a bad idea for a washed up accountant I say."

[Jonzo]

Should we revive the All Hail AA thread? or was that the old board..

[G-Snarls]

I guess no one really knows the Beeston/AA/Gibby dynamics.

 

Maybe it was Beeston's idea.

 

Beeston - "So I was on Netflix and there was this movie "Moneyball", it's a few years old... it's about this guy Billy Beane... anyway it blew my mind so I got these books by this other guy Bill James. This Bill James guy is like from my generation, but he was all into numbers and s***. Anyway I've been up 72 hours straight reading this s***. NOBODY f***ING TOLD ME ABOUT THIS BEFORE?? I'M AN ACCOUNTANT FOR CHRIST SAKES!! I LOVE THIS KIND OF s***! NUMBERS!! NOBODY BOTHERED TO TELL ME?? THAT'S YOUR f***ING JOB FOLKS!! TELL ME THE s*** THAT'S GOING ON!

 

Sorry for the rage, but you guys really should of told about this 25 years ago. Anyway all this stuff got me to thinkiing. This on base percentage is pretty important right?? And the platoons. Left handed hitters hit better against righties. And defense, the scouts over rate it at times. So what about this... Lawrie shifts to second against righties to let Francisco play?? What do you guys think?? Gibby??? AA??? Not a bad idea for a washed up accountant I say."

 

Makes me think of:

 

http://www.hark.com/clips/dzhcgbzryz-frickin-bone-here

[Olerud363]

Makes me think of:

 

http://www.hark.com/clips/dzhcgbzryz-frickin-bone-here

 

That's it. That's how I imagine Beeston speaking. Mike Myers can play him in the movie.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

AA is still a terrible GM. Just because his bad process has lucked out with some good results so far doesn't make up for all the bad decisions he's made, his lies to the fans, his complete inaction all last offseason, his phobia of advanced metrics, etc.

 

He deserves props for dumping a couple bad contracts and the Bautista deal, that's it. AA doesn't even deserve praise for Encarnacion because he let him go to the A's and got lucky that Beane screwed up and got rid of him. And his three panic trades (Napoli trade, Marlins trade, Dickey trade) will haunt this franchise for a long time.

 

In short, just because we have a winning record in June doesn't mean it's time to start sucking off AA. I'd still fire his ass today if it were up to me.

[kgm1]

<<<< Anyway I've been up 72 hours straight >>>>

 

You were on a roll till you got to the 72 hrs . No f***ing way that old beast keeps his eyes open for more than 10 hrs straight.