Jump to content
Jays Centre
  • Create Account

What's your ideal bench (with what we have available)

G-Snarls

By G-Snarls
in Toronto Blue Jays Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

G-Snarls Cooperstown

G-Snarls

Community Moderator
Posted
Posted

It's a good thing I guess that our major complaint this season has been the bench

 

Presuming Reyes gets back tomorrow and Goins is the every day 2B for a bit again, who do you want on the bench? (if you want to say Kawasaki is the every day 2B and put Goins on bench go ahead)

 

As it stands we have no speed and no one who can play CF on Colby's days off. I still want a 4 man bench and a 7 man pen, especially since we now have multiple guys in the pen who can go long (Redmond, Rogers, Happ)

 

I propose a bench of:

 

Kratz, Kawasaki, Gose and Francisco

 

50/50 left and right hand bats. Speed. CF backup. Some power.

 

Sierra and Thole are not versatile or good enough.

 

Thoughts?

KingKat All-Star

KingKat

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
It's a good thing I guess that our major complaint this season has been the bench

 

Presuming Reyes gets back tomorrow and Goins is the every day 2B for a bit again, who do you want on the bench? (if you want to say Kawasaki is the every day 2B and put Goins on bench go ahead)

 

As it stands we have no speed and no one who can play CF on Colby's days off. I still want a 4 man bench and a 7 man pen, especially since we now have multiple guys in the pen who can go long (Redmond, Rogers, Happ)

 

I propose a bench of:

 

Kratz, Kawasaki, Gose and Francisco

 

50/50 left and right hand bats. Speed. CF backup. Some power.

 

Sierra and Thole are not versatile or good enough.

 

Thoughts?

 

The only way I would consider having Francisco on the team is if Lind is on the DL. He might be an o.k. replacement as the main dh but as a bench option, he's basically a left-handed Sierra, another player using up a roster spot while providing no defensive value.

G-Snarls Cooperstown

G-Snarls

Community Moderator
Posted
  • Author
Posted
The only way I would consider having Francisco on the team is if Lind is on the DL. He might be an o.k. replacement as the main dh but as a bench option, he's basically a left-handed Sierra, another player using up a roster spot while providing no defensive value.

 

Yeah he may be no better than Sierra. I'll admit that's it's partly the "I've never seen him but he HAS to be better than Sierra" mentality that makes me want him. He may be every bit as bad as Sierra defensively. What we REALLY need to complement our starters is a right hand hitting 4th OF type who is decent on defense. We don't have one right now.

KingKat All-Star

KingKat

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
Yeah he may be no better than Sierra. I'll admit that's it's partly the "I've never seen him but he HAS to be better than Sierra" mentality that makes me want him. He may be every bit as bad as Sierra defensively. What we REALLY need to complement our starters is a right hand hitting 4th OF type who is decent on defense. We don't have one right now.

 

My ideal bench probably has Getz on it. He's right-handed and covers a lot of positions. The bat isn't much but he's a plus on the field. Might as well go with players who can provide defensive value because the offense only players like Sierra and Francisco might not actually provide any offense. I like the idea of starting Getz against LHP either at 2B or at SS (with Reyes sliding to DH). He might not be too bad against lefties and we know he'll at least improve the defense when he's on the field.

G-Snarls Cooperstown

G-Snarls

Community Moderator
Posted
  • Author
Posted
Francisco has a career wRC+ of 109 against RHP so you could probably bury him in teh 6-7 hole as a DH and not get hurt too much by it.

 

He's also currently killing it in AAA. I know it's AAA and I know it's SSS and I know hot bats can cool off. But what are Sierra and Diaz doing right now to deserve being there instead of giving him a look?

 

Francisco 2014 in Buffalo: .405/.476/.676 OPS 1.152

KingKat All-Star

KingKat

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
He's also currently killing it in AAA. I know it's AAA and I know it's SSS and I know hot bats can cool off. But what are Sierra and Diaz doing right now to deserve being there instead of giving him a look?

 

Francisco 2014 in Buffalo: .405/.476/.676 OPS 1.152

 

If Lind goes on the DL, you'll get your wish. Otherwise there's really nowhere to play him.

eastcoastjaysfan Dunedin Blue Jays

eastcoastjaysfan

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
Just try and catch lightning in a bottle with Francisco. It probably fails but if he's hot you never know what could happen. It's not like he was completely overmatched in his time in the bigs.
KingKat All-Star

KingKat

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
Just try and catch lightning in a bottle with Francisco. It probably fails but if he's hot you never know what could happen. It's not like he was completely overmatched in his time in the bigs.

 

But where do you play him? Third base over Lawrie? First Base over EE? The OF? There's nowhere to put him barring the Lind injury.

eastcoastjaysfan Dunedin Blue Jays

eastcoastjaysfan

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
But where do you play him? Third base over Lawrie? First Base over EE? The OF? There's nowhere to put him barring the Lind injury.

 

Well yeah it's contingent on Lind going to the DL (which looks likely).

 

Wouldn't be surprised to see them call up Dan Johnson either. More of a track record than Francisco and is hitting well in AAA.

fatcowxlive GOAT

fatcowxlive

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted

Kratz (but because Dickey, Thole), Diaz, Goins, Gose

 

Kawazaki starts at 2B and Reyes at SS

 

Not Fransisco because Lind has his spot. Unless you want to move Lawrie to 2B and butcher the 3B position defensively there's no use

TDotttt2005 First Round Pick

TDotttt2005

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Assuming Reyes and Diaz start. Kratz, Gose, Goins, and a toss up between Johnson and Francisco. Both can play first/third, but I think its been a while since Johnson has done it regularly.
G-Snarls Cooperstown

G-Snarls

Community Moderator
Posted
  • Author
Posted

Here's a fan in Montreal, obviously pining for that right hand hitting 4th OF type we need so badly...

 

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=640&d=1397743467

over500 College Ball

over500

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Here's a fan in Montreal, obviously pining for that right hand hitting 4th OF type we need so badly...

 

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=640&d=1397743467

That's just bizzarre.

Atothe Vancouver Canadians

Atothe

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
Diaz has to be on the bench, very versatile. Shortstop, second, third and some outfield. Platoon Saki and Diaz. Kratz, Gose and Schimpf are the bench.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
The Jays Centre Caretaker Fund
The Jays Centre Caretaker Fund

You all care about this site. The next step is caring for it. We’re asking you to caretake this site so it can remain the premier Blue Jays community on the internet.

Become a Caretaker

  • Member Statistics

    21,000
    Total Members
    48,845
    Most Online
    Total BS
    Newest Member
    Total BS
    Joined
×
×
  • Create New...