GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 He's a 33 year old catcher, the odds are pretty good he's in decline. He was just about the only player in baseball who hit worse than Arencibia last year. Maybe we should keep JPA then?
TheHurl Site Manager Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe even have a playoff made in that time just like the Cubs and Mets. Cubs and mets both have made the playoffs in the last ten years thanks for your insight
TheHurl Site Manager Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe we should keep JPA then? his pitch framing improved last season supposedly. I still believe you see JPA at least 30% of the time.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2013 Author Posted November 25, 2013 his pitch framing improved last season supposedly. I still believe you see JPA at least 30% of the time. What website gives me good info about "Framing"?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 What website gives me good info about "Framing"? Basically this one. JFAS has quoted some numbers (possibly in this very thread). Unfortunately none of the mainstream sites incoporate it. The day when pitch framing data gets rolled up into WAR is the day WAR might actually properly evaluate the catcher position.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2013 Author Posted November 25, 2013 It's really close to being solid and able to do. I just need a way to find out plate discipline numbers for certain catchers and strikes and balls. The problem is the database, the raw material. Now that you're a demigod, if you elaborate an article on that topic the things could change.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 What website gives me good info about "Framing"? http://www.statcorner.com/CatcherReport.php
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Wow Arencibia isn't even a good framer he just has the biggest sample size. How this guy got into so many games is unimaginable.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Wow Arencibia isn't even a good framer he just has the biggest sample size. How this guy got into so many games is unimaginable. There's a negligible difference when you interpolate Arencibia to Hanigan's sample size. He's roughly as good as Hanigan. Arencibia RAA/pitch: 0.00166895531847470159501426006127 Hanigan RAA/pitch: 0.00173531256533556345389922642693 That's a difference of 0.664 runs/10000 pitches. He's a good framer.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 I'm impressed with Grandal. That bat + 3 calls per game. He's basically all the Padres got for Latos but he may single-handedly justify the trade.
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 I'm impressed with Grandal. That bat + 3 calls per game. He's basically all the Padres got for Latos but he may single-handedly justify the trade. Really? If framing numbers are all over the map, how can anyone assign value?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Really? If framing numbers are all over the map, how can anyone assign value? Convert the amount of call to runs, convert the runs to wins?
GeorgiaPeach Verified Member Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Convert the amount of call to runs, convert the runs to wins? Amazing how very few sites use this, seeing as its so simplistic.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Amazing how very few sites use this, seeing as its so simplistic. Well it's getting to the fist part that's hard. I don't think anyone had figured out a methodology for determining an expected calls to actual calls formula until Fast came along.
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