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GDT - World Series Game 4: Boston Red Sox @ St. Louis Cardinals (Lynn vs Buchholz)


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8:00pm ET

 

Red Sox (C. Buchholz - R) @ Cardinals (L. Lynn - R)

 

Cardinals lead series 2 games to 1

 

Gametime Forecast: 54°F • Clear • 0%PoP

 

1. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF

2. Shane Victorino (S) RF

3. Dustin Pedroia ® 2B

4. David Ortiz (L) 1B

5. Daniel Nava (S) LF

6. Xander Bogaerts ® 3B

7. Stephen Drew (L) SS

8. David Ross ® C

9. Clay Buchholz (L) P

 

1. Matt Carpenter (L) 2B

2. Carlos Beltran (S) RF

3. Matt Holliday ® LF

4. Matt Adams (L) 1B

5. Yadier Molina ® C

6. Jon Jay (L) CF

7. David Freese ® 3B

8. Daniel Descalso (L) SS

9. Lance Lynn ® P

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And he's not eligible for free agency until 2018

 

And he's been mentioned to be a trade possibility by MLBTR

 

Can this just happen already? Please?

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And I don't think it would.

 

Just out of curiosity what do you think it would take?

 

I mean a young (ish) pitcher who has been solid and durable I am sure the Cards would not just want to give him away.

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Just out of curiosity what do you think it would take?

 

I mean a young (ish) pitcher who has been solid and durable I am sure the Cards would not just want to give him away.

 

As of right now, I'm pondering what Wong + Lynn would cost. Janssen would obviously be part of the package going back. What else do we have that they'd want though?

 

Maybe D.J. Davis + Janssen + a piece or two.

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As of right now, I'm pondering what Wong + Lynn would cost. Janssen would obviously be part of the package going back. What else do we have that they'd want though?

 

Maybe D.J. Davis + Janssen + a piece or two.

 

That seems low for me but knowing the cards they take that and turn Davis into the next Tori Hunter or some s*** like that lol.

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That seems low for me but knowing the cards they take that and turn Davis into the next Tori Hunter or some s*** like that lol.

 

I don't mean an insignificant piece or two. I just don't know which ones really fit the Cards.

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Lynn + Wong for Sanchez + Janssen + D.J Davis + Pillar seems likely-ish. Maybe some more from Jays.

 

Sanchez being developed in the Cards' org is scary to think about.

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Just curious guys why would the Cardinals trade Lynn unless they can get a team to overpay for him.

 

they've got about 7 or 8 quality starters there. Someones gotta go , but you're right, they're not going to give them away.

 

I'd like Lynn too, but I can't see it being done without Sanchez or Stroman involved. We don't really have much else.

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Anybody actually think Kolten Wong is an everyday second baseman? I know the guy is good defensively, but what about the bat?

 

Don't know much about him

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Anybody actually think Kolten Wong is an everyday second baseman? I know the guy is good defensively, but what about the bat?

 

Don't know much about him

 

He's hit at every level in the minors, just not a power threat. When in doubt, never go against a card prospect

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He's hit at every level in the minors, just not a power threat. When in doubt, never go against a card prospect

 

Line drives for days. It's the Cardinals way.

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Oh my God, Wong?! Unacceptable!

 

 

He's another headcase like Rasmus, not a true Cardinal, send him north to Eskimo land baby for Janssen!

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These Cards don't deserve s***, they're pretty bad fundamentally, SSS I know, but f*** do teams give games away to the Red Sox.
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That seems low for me but knowing the cards they take that and turn Davis into the next Tori Hunter or some s*** like that lol.

 

I don't think they would do that for Lynn alone.

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Oh my God, Wong?! Unacceptable!

 

you know the headlines are gonna be "what went Wong"

 

not quite as good as "free willy" but just as stupid

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Very boneheaded play and Matheny threw him under the bus in post-game interviews as if they lost because of him.

 

Hopefully this makes Cardinal fans go all crazy on him and the organization sours him.

 

Then hopefully AA has the savvy to go trade for Wong at his lowest point.

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Very boneheaded play and Matheny threw him under the bus in post-game interviews as if they lost because of him.

 

Hopefully this makes Cardinal fans go all crazy on him and the organization sours him.

 

Then hopefully AA has the savvy to go trade for Wong at his lowest point.

 

I like this plan

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Very boneheaded play and Matheny threw him under the bus in post-game interviews as if they lost because of him.

 

Hopefully this makes Cardinal fans go all crazy on him and the organization sours him.

 

Then hopefully AA has the savvy to go trade for Wong at his lowest point.

 

 

Let's do it! I'm finding out Matheny is a bit of a butcher as a manager so let's hope this happens.

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“The moment just got the best of him,” Matheny said. “And, yeah, it affected him, because he’s human and he cares.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-kolten-wong-cardinals-20131028,0,4177150,full.story#axzz2j4j0HKYd

 

Doesn't really make him sound so bad.

 

I hadn't really read what he said about Wong. My beef with him has been his bullpen usage. In game 3 Siegrist threw 8 pitches to get the side in order in the 7th and looked great. Ellsbury was leading off and I thought Siegrist should've at least faced him and if he got him out, maybe should've pitched to Victorino and if he got him out, to Pedroia as well. Instead, he brought in Martinez who was pitching for the 3rd time in 4 days, something he had never done, and the Red Sox tied the game. They're lucky they won that game. Tonight, I thought Wainright should've been pulled after the double by Ross and Siegrist should've faced Lester and Ellsbury, that's a huge run that Ellsbury drove in.

 

Don't get me wrong, the Cards can't hit, but Matheny just hasn't impressed me.

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