Here's Your Inside Dirt For the Day

[Nox]

I admit, I was hoping for a more scathing initial reply from Nox.

 

I've turned a corner and have come to realize that nobody knows more about anything than old men in old man pseudo-professions (scouting/umpiring).

[GD]

Doumit is an infinitely better hitter than JPA, and only possibly a worse defender behind the plate.... but even then we would be talking worst in baseball vs. second worst in baseball.

 

Last 3 years: link

 

The "Fans Scouting Report" gives them both overall grades of 31.

 

Right from Fast's spreadsheet:

 

JP Arencibia EstRuns: -12.9

Ryan Doumit EstRuns: -66.5

 

Ryan Doumit is a terrifying catcher

 

Pretty pathetic Jays fan you are.

 

Is it just me, or is BTS always the one who gets accused of not being a fan because he's negative/realistic?

[Laika]

Right from Fast's spreadsheet:

JP Arencibia EstRuns: -12.9

Ryan Doumit EstRuns: -66.5

Ryan Doumit is a terrifying catcher

 

A) Those are probably across vastly different sample sizes

An initial study like that is great for "binning" catchers, i.e. throwing into categories like "great", "average", or "god-awful". But it's not anything close to quantifiable gospel.

 

They both blow chunks, that's as much as we can say.

[baseballsss]

A) Those are probably across vastly different sample sizes

An initial study like that is great for "binning" catchers, i.e. throwing into categories like "great", "average", or "god-awful". But it's not anything close to quantifiable gospel.

 

They both blow chunks, that's as much as we can say.

 

such a stupid thread yet continues to read and post in it :s odd if you ask me.

[Laika]

such a stupid thread yet continues to read and post in it :s odd if you ask me.

 

Well, that's just how message boards work sometimes.

 

For example: I know you're an idiot, but I read and responded to your post anyway.

[baseballsss]

Well, that's just how message boards work sometimes.

 

For example: I know you're an idiot, but I read and responded to your post anyway.

 

that hurt. guess thats how message boards go.#keyboardwarriors

[Dick_Pole]

Ryan Doumit doesn't even play at C for two-thirds of the time, and has played several positions in his career. Might as well compare his hockey skills to the worst NHL player and then say oh no, Doumit is the worst player so that guy is actually only the second worst.

[Dick_Pole]

Yeah, he's DH'ing or playing RF the other two thirds.

 

If JPA could at least add 50-75 points to his OBP he'd at least have some value as a DH. That's a big if though.

 

JPA being out of the league soon should be a legit concern to him. He reminds me a lot like Josh Phelps in terms of hitting style. Phelps was pretty much relegated to a couple seasons of a power bat off the bench before he was completely out of the league once the Jays traded him away. And Phelps has a career OBP of .343.

[Dick_Pole]

Another guy destroyed by the inept player development scheme of this team. I mean, JPA thinks he's good. He's not. And the Jays serve no purpose letting him think otherwise. I can understand the issues with catching. If he doesn't have the eyes or reflexes for it nothing can be done no matter how hard he tries. But if he wants to stay in this league he HAS to improve his overall approach at the plate so he has value at 1B or DH. There's nothing so atrocious about his swing that can't be fixed with some good coaching and humility on his part. This is not the 1980's anymore where guys like Rob Deer can pull off 10 year careers.