GDT(3/3): Tampa Bay Rays @ Toronto Blue Jays - Archer vs. Dickey - 1:07 PM ET

[JaysAllMighty]

Gibbons doesn't do anything fearing that he might lose his temper and slap some of them around. Well guess what Gibbons, your calm approach isn't working, time to lose it and kick some asses.

[fatcowxlive]

fired for what? because AA has given him a roster filled with mental midgets?

 

As a scapegoat. Like his first firing.

[o2cui2i]

As a scapegoat. Like his first firing.

 

it would be a bad PR move for the team, for AA and for Beeston. probably wont happen.

 

this team is not getting any better until they employ someone who can actually evaluate talent.

[Angrioter]

Gibbons probably gets fired this year.

 

Why? - 'cause this team suck

[fatcowxlive]

So... our organization fully accepts that we can't develop position players, don't they see something wrong with that. Somebody needs to be held accountable for it, no? We can't just give up on developing position players

 

If we could only develop pitching like the A's, we could have used the developed pitchers as trade pieces for batters that we can't develop.

 

But nope, we can't develop anything at all.

[JohnnyLonghorn]

I love Juan Perez. Not too many pitchers finally put it together this late in their career, but he just been stellar this year. I'm really pulling for him.

[JFD]

the crowd doesn't look very happy

[fatcowxlive]

it would be a bad PR move for the team, for AA and for Beeston. probably wont happen.

 

this team is not getting any better until they employ someone who can actually evaluate talent.

 

Beeston and JPR did it and hired Gaston and the Toronto "fans" (by fans I mean the loud homers) went with it and agreed it was the right move and it bought JPR a few more months

[ElNik2013]

If we could only develop pitching like the A's, we could have used the developed pitchers as trade pieces for batters that we can't develop.

 

But nope, we can't develop anything at all.

 

 

Would you feel the same if they still have the prospects they traded away? I agree there's a problem with position players, but if they kept the prospects, you'd have Syndergaard, Sanchez, Nicolino, Nolin, Stroman, Hutchison with Marisnick, D'Arnaud, Gose. Anyway, we're all frustrated.

[JaysAllMighty]

I was hoping to see Delgado in the lineup for this game.

[Angrioter]

I love Juan Perez. Not too many pitchers finally put it together this late in their career, but he just been stellar this year. I'm really pulling for him.

 

He's a reliever. The reliever doesn't have great contribution to baseball teams.

We need starter and bats

[fatcowxlive]

Another baserunner to strand!

[Howard Roark]

I'm still not fully convinced that AAgoing full retard this past offseason was entirely his own doing, the sudden deviation from his oft-stated plan was just too sudden and extreme in it's execution. Methinks the order came down from the new ownership, through Beeston, to "put out a winner NOW". It just doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

[JFD]

Would you feel the same if they still have the prospects they traded away? I agree there's a problem with position players, but if they kept the prospects, you'd have Syndergaard, Sanchez, Nicolino, Nolin, Stroman, Hutchison with Marisnick, D'Arnaud, Gose. Anyway, we're all frustrated.

 

Gose sucks

[ElNik2013]

He's a reliever. The reliever doesn't have great contribution to baseball teams.

We need starter and bats

 

 

All he's saying is that he's rooting for him, he's not saying he's a key component or anything like that. We know you know how to build a f***ing team bro, we're all f***ing pissed here.

[fatcowxlive]

Would you feel the same if they still have the prospects they traded away? I agree there's a problem with position players, but if they kept the prospects, you'd have Syndergaard, Sanchez, Nicolino, Nolin, Stroman, Hutchison with Marisnick, D'Arnaud, Gose. Anyway, we're all frustrated.

 

But we'd have hope for a dynasty. A future to look forward to.

 

But instead we are faced with the future of a big payroll and nothing from the farm in the next few years. A Marlins/Astros future is incoming, more painful years of rebuilding

[Angrioter]

Another baserunner to strand!

 

Wrong

 

GIDP

[fatcowxlive]

f***

[fatcowxlive]

HOW IS ARCHER DOING THIS?!

 

4 walks, 5 hits, 1 RUN?!

[Howard Roark]

Agreed on all accounts. Basically this team is f***ed for the better part of the next decade.

 

My money is on the Board riding this out for the last 2 years of our "window" (lmao) before cleaning house. Problem is, Bautista and Eddy won't net you half as much in return then as they would now.

[ElNik2013]

Gose sucks

 

 

Yet several preferred to trade Marisnick to trading Gose. I know he's taken a step backwards this year, but there's still time for him to improve. Even then, you could make the case that he and Pillar could platoon to provide a cheaper alternative to Cabrera who's the everyday LF right now and making 7/8M.

 

Anyway, the point was that without last offseason trades, the organization would be in pretty good shape as far as the farm was concerned.

[Abomination]

HOW IS ARCHER DOING THIS?!

 

4 walks, 5 hits, 1 RUN?!

 

It's not Archer, it's our bats today. We should be killing him with the way he's pitched.

[JaysAllMighty]

HOW IS ARCHER DOING THIS?!

 

4 walks, 5 hits, 1 RUN?!

 

Easy against a clutchless team like the Jays.

[DH12]

what the f*** do you want him to do? Grab a bat and hit people?

 

yes!!!!

[DH12]

AA got owned on his off season trades

[Angrioter]

HOW IS ARCHER DOING THIS?!

 

4 walks, 5 hits, 1 RUN?!

 

Archer is a decent prospect

 

Archer like Drabek but healthy lol

[Fearthedoc]

Buck and Pat are actually spot on about Hanley. He's been incredible this year. 3 WAR in 42 games.

[Angrioter]

It's not Archer, it's our bats today. We should be killing him with the way he's pitched.

 

The silver lining - Archer has been nasty last 6 outings

[Fearthedoc]

We miss Kershaw and Greinke and face Capuano/Ryu/Nolasco. Too bad we s*** the bed this series.

[gruber92]

f***,Reyes looked really slow getting that tag down.