Blue Jays sign (then release) catcher Ramon Hernandez

[G-Snarls]

[fatcowxlive]

Good move! I like this

[G-Snarls]

Depth move?

 

Or part of something bigger?

[G-Snarls]

Begin JPA trade speculation in 1... 2... 3...

 

(Joking. This seems like just a depth move)

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Who is currently catching in Buffalo? Ochinko? He's been terrible. Probably has to do with the Jays commitment to fielding a good AAA team.

[G-Snarls]

Oh jeez, he's 37 years old. Hadn't heard his name in so long I'd forgotten about him.

[G-Snarls]

Who is currently catching in Buffalo? Ochinko? He's been terrible. Probably has to do with the Jays commitment to fielding a good AAA team.

 

Career .327 OBP. Too high for a catcher on the Blue Jays.

[John_Havok]

Has been an okay catcher for the most part. 2010 and 2011 with the Reds he put up a .290/.353./.493 slash line playing about 50% of the time, 19 hr. wOBA .351, .340.

 

Career wOBA .285

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Career .327 OBP. Too good for a catcher on the Blue Jays.

 

He was worth -.7 WAR last year in Colorado.

 

It's a nothing move. Thole might get replaced with this guy... but whatever. I'd prefer Thole because of the Dickey connection.

[sachmo55]

JP Arencibia in 72 games: 0.2 WAR

Hernandez in 17 games: 0.4 WAR

 

One's a #Top10Catcher and the other will be playing in AAA, lol

[Caper]

I wonder if they will bump up Jimenez and maybe the vet will mentor him?

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Man, this guy has 50M in career earnings.

 

He probably lives in some 3rd world island country in the Carribean where $1 goes a mile.

 

How irresponsible was he was with his money? Just retire and stop embarrassing yourself.

[Dylan]

Man, this guy has 50M in career earnings.

 

He probably lives in some 3rd world island country in the Carribean where $1 goes a mile.

 

How irresponsible was he was with his money? Just retire and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Joke?

 

?? Maybe he loves the game?

[Metallijay]

Man, this guy has 50M in career earnings.

 

He probably lives in some 3rd world island country in the Carribean where $1 goes a mile.

 

How irresponsible was he was with his money? Just retire and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

What?

[HERPDERP]

ecjf has gone senile

[Angrioter]

little upgrade over JP.

In other circumstances I would say that is a worthless move but..............JPA is a pile of s***.

[Dylan]

Solid depth move for now

[Angrioter]

Man, this guy has 50M in career earnings.

 

He probably lives in some 3rd world island country in the Carribean where $1 goes a mile.

 

How irresponsible was he was with his money? Just retire and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

It's his job, he feel useless doing anything else (ALA Manny Ramirez)

[Errorcebia]

There's now no reason for JP to be on this team. He and Thole are better.

[jaysblue]

Nice depth move. He had solid years with Cincy back in 2010 and 2011 as a part timer/platoon role. Better than having a Blanco or Nickeas down in Buffalo.

[ElNik2013]

The first thing to do should be to start a platoon with Thole and JPA, whomever is hot plays 3 of 5 games. You have to push players like JPA and let them know their job is not secure, but then again AA is a pussy and defers to Beeston and his marketing team so I just wasted space on this forum...sorry guys.

[IronLadle]

The first thing to do should be to start a platoon with Thole and JPA, whomever is hot plays 3 of 5 games. You have to push players like JPA and let them know their job is not secure, but then again AA is a pussy and defers to Beeston and his marketing team so I just wasted space on this forum...sorry guys.

 

If Thole was hitting I'm sure they'd platoon the two.

[ElNik2013]

If Thole was hitting I'm sure they'd platoon the two.

 

 

Thole hasn't been given a chance, he's only playing once every 5th game, it's tough to do much offensively with that little playing time. Also, I'm not sure how you can confidently say that this team would platoon the 2 if Thole was hitting, they've shown that they think very highly of JPA. One example of this is that they traded away their top prospect who also happened to be a catcher and almost ready to be in MLB as well as another decent catching prospect in Carlos Perez.

 

All signs point to JPA being well regarded by this management/coaching regime.

[IronLadle]

Thole hasn't been given a chance, he's only playing once every 5th game, it's tough to do much offensively with that little playing time. Also, I'm not sure how you can confidently say that this team would platoon the 2 if Thole was hitting, they've shown that they think very highly of JPA. One example of this is that they traded away their top prospect who also happened to be a catcher and almost ready to be in MLB as well as another decent catching prospect in Carlos Perez.

 

All signs point to JPA being well regarded by this management/coaching regime.

 

He's getting a chance, just not performing. They started him at first today in favour of DeRosa, I can't understand you claiming he doesn't get a chance when we DFA'd Blanco to give him a chance. But you don't earn the starting catchers position by playing worse than the starting catcher.

[ElNik2013]

He's getting a chance, just not performing. They started him at first today in favour of DeRosa, I can't understand you claiming he doesn't get a chance when we DFA'd Blanco to give him a chance. But you don't earn the starting catchers position by playing worse than the starting catcher.

 

What? First of all, he's not the answer at catcher so I'm not saying he is, but neither is JPA so them platooning is the best option in my opinion.

 

But how does playing 1 of every 5 games constitute being given a chance like you claim? He only played today because Lind left the game injured, if not he wouldn't have played.

 

Anyway, whatever....

[IronLadle]

What? First of all, he's not the answer at catcher so I'm not saying he is, but neither is JPA so them platooning is the best option in my opinion.

 

But how does playing 1 of every 5 games constitute being given a chance like you claim? He only played today because Lind left the game injured, if not he wouldn't have played.

 

Anyway, whatever....

 

You play the best guy, sadly J.P is the best guy. In a month if Jimenez is still playing great in AA, bump him up to AAA. If he plays well there, give him a shot.

[Frenchsoup]

You play the best guy, sadly J.P is the best guy. In a month if Jimenez is still playing great in AA, bump him up to AAA. If he plays well there, give him a shot.

 

i think Thole's defense alone makes him the better player, this team could also use the obp and situational hitting/bunting of thole.

[ElNik2013]

You play the best guy, sadly J.P is the best guy. In a month if Jimenez is still playing great in AA, bump him up to AAA. If he plays well there, give him a shot.

 

 

There's something to be said for sending a message to JPA that he's not untouchable, a little competition would be good. Also, if JPA is not that good, which he isn't, he shouldn't play 4 of every 5 games every time through the rotation. Make him work in the games he doesn't start, but anyway, it's definitely a black hole.

[IronLadle]

i think Thole's defense alone makes him the better player, this team could also use the obp and situational hitting/bunting of thole.

 

Thole's defense is insignificantly better, considering how bad his bat looks.

 

There's something to be said for sending a message to JPA that he's not untouchable, a little competition would be good. Also, if JPA is not that good, which he isn't, he shouldn't play 4 of every 5 games every time through the rotation. Make him work in the games he doesn't start, but anyway, it's definitely a black hole.

 

I think that was idea of bringing Thole up, Blanco at 42 can't physically play a ton of games. Benching Arencibia for his free swinging way's may not be a bad idea - but it hurts the team at this point if Thole's bat is in the line-up consistently.

[ElNik2013]

Thole's defense is insignificantly better, considering how bad his bat looks.

 

 

 

I think that was idea of bringing Thole up, Blanco at 42 can't physically play a ton of games. Benching Arencibia for his free swinging way's may not be a bad idea - but it hurts the team at this point if Thole's bat is in the line-up consistently.

 

 

Playing Thole 2 of 5 games instead of 1 of 5 is not the same as playing him consistenly. The rest may do JPA some good, he'll have more time to tweet, shave, bang more teenage chicks and recover from it.