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Reliever Ryan Dull OTB. Top 100 ranked players in this league. Not sure what that brings back.

 

What? Really?

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Ya. RPs made up a quarter of the top 100 ranked players.

 

Yahoo's calculations must be wrong, disproportionately weighing ratios.

 

Either that or we're all idiots

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Yahoo's calculations must be wrong, disproportionately weighing ratios.

 

Either that or we're all idiots

 

How do you even weigh ratios? Seriously. Obviously Kershaw's 2 ERA is better than Jansen's by 3x, but how do I tell my spreadsheet that? Multiply ERA and K/BB z scores by projected innings? Kinda seems like an inexact science.

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How do you even weigh ratios? Seriously. Obviously Kershaw's 2 ERA is better than Jansen's by 3x, but how do I tell my spreadsheet that?

 

I'd ask Clippy to help out, he's the professional after-all.

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I would also assume wrong. Their ratios can't be that much better to effect your weekly line that much. They only average 3 innings a week.

 

Yeah but starters also don't provide anything in SV/HLD.

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74 IP of 2.4 ERA and 5 K/BB is pretty valuable. Unfortunately, projections have him with an ERA close to 4, which is probably his true talent.
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Yeah but starters also don't provide anything in SV/HLD.

 

But they provide twice as many SOs. How much can HLDs be actually worth though, so many pitchers collect them.

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I could actually probably see the reasoning behind the value of the RP in season. But in a keeper league like ours their value is depressed mostly because there's so many ranked highly, their roles are easily lost, and most fluctuate quite a bit from year to year.
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How do you even weigh ratios? Seriously. Obviously Kershaw's 2 ERA is better than Jansen's by 3x, but how do I tell my spreadsheet that? Multiply ERA and K/BB z scores by projected innings? Kinda seems like an inexact science.

 

It's not THAT complicated. I have a mental process for it but I'm sure Cyborg or North know how to do it with real math.

 

Analogy from school - your grade in a class changes by the percentage the new mark is worth * the difference between the new mark and current mark.

 

If you have a 70 and you get 100% on something worth 10%, your grade goes up 3%.

If you have a 70 and you get 79% on something worth 1/3 of your final grade, your grade goes up by.... 3%.

 

Now consider your incumbent mark to be the league average pitching ratio.

Consider the new mark to be the specific player's ratio.

Consider the percentage the mark is worth to be the innings / week that they give your team.

 

It's difference from league average * proportional contribution to your weekly innings.

So the calculus changes based on roster construction. If you own more or less SP or RP it changes the thought process. One elite RP doesn't do as much for a team with 10 starters chugging innings. One league average-ish SP heavily sandbags a team that relies on strong relief ratios.

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One league average-ish SP heavily sandbags a team that relies on strong relief ratios.

 

So RA Dickey is the reason I'm not DDL champion. Got it.

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This is what I use:

I think TheRock's way works, but here's another way to think about it:

 

First find what the average BA of the entire draft pool would be: Take all 168 hitters drafted (or however many your league drafts) and get the league average BA. Let's say it ends up at .270.

 

The basic formula Tango suggests is:

 

H - (AB * league_average)

 

So if A-Rod gets 159 H in 549 AB:

 

159 - (541 * .270) = 159 - 146 = 13

 

Here's what that formula is doing: Let's suppose that a league average player (the .270 hitter) gets the same number of AB as A-Rod (541). In that situation, how many hits would he have? He would get 146 hits (541 * .270).

 

Now A-Rod is projected to get 159 hits. When we subtract the pro-rated hits of the average player (146), we find that A-Rod is projected to get 13 more hits than the league average. That 13 is what Tango uses for xH.

 

https://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=368208

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Hurl bet on that 3 years ago.

 

I think it was the opposite. I traded him predicting his DUI related death. Didn't know it would just be his bats that would die.

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My point is, you guys are reactionary idiots. I didn't make a bad trade. I doubt NJH thinks he absolutely robbed me. I like reading the reactions because they are exactly as predicted:

 

- I got a fair amount of risk for a fairly bankable asset so Dinger hates it

- I didn't trade for a platoon guy or 4th starter so BTS hates it

- I executed a trade at all so North hates it

- I traded for a pitcher with fantastic mechanics and very low injury risk, so Abom hates it

- BTS hates it, therefore GD hates it

 

I could go on and on. So predictable.

 

I mostly base my opinion on historical evidence

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BREAKING NEWS

 

The Padres have claimed righty Zach Lee off waivers from the Mariners, Seattle announced. He had recently been designated for assignment

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Only 7 teams have added a trade block. Sad!

 

I will add one when I'm ready to trade...in February. I can't take this December pressure.

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How do we add a trade block?

 

Just make a google sheet, set it allow anyone with the link to view it, then give us the link.

 

We'll add the link to the DDL sheet. Then its up to you how you want to lay it out.

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