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Miami isn't that great. The park kills Yelich's impact, Stanton always gets a season ending injury, and Ozuna is a fart.
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Mitch Haniger is crushing baseballs and is actually good. Gonna have a huge year.

 

You kinda broke my trust in you after pimping Steven Souza as a fantasy franchise cornerstone.

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You kinda broke my trust in you after pimping Steven Souza as a fantasy franchise cornerstone.

 

It should also be noted that Cyborg has a bottom half LoD team now. He's not that smart of a robot tbh.

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It should also be noted that Cyborg has a bottom half LoD team now. He's not that smart of a robot tbh.

 

Mid range team with elite farm.

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Jabari Blash has a 1.500 OPS this spring with five dingers. Post-hype rule 5 breakout and power star?

 

This guy's for real. He added a toe tap

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Gotta love it when spring training numbers have everyone thinking their favorite AAAA star is a sure bet for MVP.

 

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Gleyber Torres' grades translate to about a .280 hitter with 20 HRs, 3-5 steals, and average SS defense--in other words, very close to what Asdrubal Cabrera put up last year. Should the Yankees be satisfied if he turns out to be Asdrubal Cabrera 2.0?

 

Eric A Longenhagen

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Hell yes, Cabrera has been a big leaguer since I was in high school , that would be a great outcome for Torres and the Yankees.

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Gleyber Torres' grades translate to about a .280 hitter with 20 HRs, 3-5 steals, and average SS defense--in other words, very close to what Asdrubal Cabrera put up last year. Should the Yankees be satisfied if he turns out to be Asdrubal Cabrera 2.0?

 

Eric A Longenhagen

1:41

 

Hell yes, Cabrera has been a big leaguer since I was in high school , that would be a great outcome for Torres and the Yankees.

 

Disagree, slightly. It would be an OK outcome but a league average hitter with notably below average SS defense should not be regarded as a "great" outcome for a top ~5 prospect.

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Gleyber Torres' grades translate to about a .280 hitter with 20 HRs, 3-5 steals, and average SS defense--in other words, very close to what Asdrubal Cabrera put up last year. Should the Yankees be satisfied if he turns out to be Asdrubal Cabrera 2.0?

 

Eric A Longenhagen

1:41

 

Hell yes, Cabrera has been a big leaguer since I was in high school , that would be a great outcome for Torres and the Yankees.

 

If Asdrubal consistently had 120 wRC+s throughout his prime then he would have been a pretty studly shortstop. As far as Gleyber's ceiling, I think he'll hit for a bit more average and walk more than Asdrubal has, but as comp it's not terrible.

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Longenhagen posting some comments he received in the chat lol:

 

"So us readers can tell pretty quickly the difference between the BA and MLB prospect rankings and the garbage put out by BP and all the no-name wannabe sites. You've firmly placed yourself with the BP group"

 

"Your list is bad, and you should feel bad."

 

"So as your first year writing a top 100 list on your own, you figured it be a good time to go out on a limb and make all sort of crazy rankings. Smart."

 

"Can you go work at BP so Fangraphs can actually hire an experienced prospect guru in here? Thanks"

 

"We want Kiley back. s*** I'd maybe prefer Dan at this point."

 

I actually think he does a pretty good job.

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Longenhagen posting some comments he received in the chat lol:

 

 

 

I actually think he does a pretty good job.

 

Probably the best free content available, imo. He goes into great detail with his thoughts on every player/list, and even takes the time to explain all of his rankings without being an arrogant ******* about it, which is a huge bonus.

 

Time will tell, but he seems to know what he's talking about.

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Of course he does a good job. I really appreciate outlets that take the time to provide present/future grades for every tool, for every prospect worthy of making an organizations top ~20.

 

Fangraphs is kind of the only place that does that.

 

BP has moved away from listing tool grades, and has drifted into the more vague descriptive/written territory where some tools will be referenced with specific grades and others won't necessarily be. And they rarely grade a prospect not in team's top 10, unless they pop up in an eyewitness report (which really is the gold mine within BP, and the only thing worth paying for.)

 

BA doesn't list tool grades for all of their prospects. Similar to BP right now. There's great content on BA but you have to be a reader - not a data hunter.

 

2080 is cool but doesn't produce all-encompassing content right now. They do produce tool grades if a player appears in the "reports" section but not in their organizational rankings or overview.

 

MLB seems to actually apply tool grades but they are not very clear... are they probable outcomes or ceiling grades? How to they project future vs present? The written content beneath the grades is also completely useless.

 

ERIC LONGENHAGEN is arguably producing the best prospect content on the internet right now, all by himself. He is examining organizations in depth, providing sensible analysis, sensible rankings, good written content, and clear and sensible (and statistically digestible!) present/future grades for all tools for all noteworthy prospects. WOW!!!

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I thought his list was one of the better ones... although he waited til the end to release it, and therefore had the benefit of reading every other list and the backlash for each.
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He's writing 5,000+ words on every organization, and often goes well over 25-30 prospects (including the honourable mentions) for each. And it's all free for the reader. Pretty amazing, really.

 

He doesn't get enough love for his efforts.

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He's doing a great job. He has some misguided ideologies about player value and I don't always agree with his opinions, but he does his job very well.
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Of course he does a good job. I really appreciate outlets that take the time to provide present/future grades for every tool, for every prospect worthy of making an organizations top ~20.

 

Fangraphs is kind of the only place that does that.

 

BP has moved away from listing tool grades, and has drifted into the more vague descriptive/written territory where some tools will be referenced with specific grades and others won't necessarily be. And they rarely grade a prospect not in team's top 10, unless they pop up in an eyewitness report (which really is the gold mine within BP, and the only thing worth paying for.)

 

BA doesn't list tool grades for all of their prospects. Similar to BP right now. There's great content on BA but you have to be a reader - not a data hunter.

 

2080 is cool but doesn't produce all-encompassing content right now. They do produce tool grades if a player appears in the "reports" section but not in their organizational rankings or overview.

 

MLB seems to actually apply tool grades but they are not very clear... are they probable outcomes or ceiling grades? How to they project future vs present? The written content beneath the grades is also completely useless.

 

ERIC LONGENHAGEN is arguably producing the best prospect content on the internet right now, all by himself. He is examining organizations in depth, providing sensible analysis, sensible rankings, good written content, and clear and sensible (and statistically digestible!) present/future grades for all tools for all noteworthy prospects. WOW!!!

 

I find he veers too much into the scouting gobbledygook. He's not markedly worse than any other site but I miss Dan Farnsworth.

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I find he veers too much into the scouting gobbledygook. He's not markedly worse than any other site but I miss Dan Farnsworth.

 

Farnsworth was really bad. He had some interesting ideas but the work was way over his head. He could have been one part of a good prospect team.

 

"I hate player comps, and I may enrage more people with this, but I don’t think there’s much separating [Ryan] Weber from a guy like Dallas Keuchel."

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And then to be fair, the best of Farnsworth. I think maybe he just sucked at scouting pitching.

 

"Tellez reminds me a lot of David Ortiz athletically. Sew a super athletic upper body with good rotational mechanics onto a stiff, unathletic pair of legs, and you get Ortiz and Tellez. They may even have comparable raw power, the difference being Ortiz’ ability to utilize that power effectively with a better swing path for putting the ball in the air.

 

The ball jumps off Tellez’ bat, but he’s very choppy getting to contact, limiting his power mostly to pitches up in the zone, where his plane is forced to level out more. What may save him from being a slugger who doesn’t slug enough is his raw hitting ability: Tellez has shown better contact rates than you’d expect and, partially as a result, the potential for a plus hit tool."

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Jeff Zimmerman‏ @jeffwzimmerman

Lucas Giloito sitting at 92 mph on his fastball. Little to no movement on it.

 

woof. baseball is cruel.

 

Giolito is burned out, before he even began. That's like a 55 fastball, depending on what he can ramp it up to...

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Jeff Zimmerman‏ @jeffwzimmerman

Lucas Giloito sitting at 92 mph on his fastball. Little to no movement on it.

 

woof. baseball is cruel.

 

Giolito is burned out, before he even began. That's like a 55 fastball, depending on what he can ramp it up to...

 

Remember when Dylan Bundy was a lock to be an ace? I hate pitching prospects.

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Ha, Bundy kind of relit the candle last year at least a little bit. He's positioned as a post-post-hype breakout guy this year.

 

But him just being a league average SP would be a huge success.

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Ha, Bundy kind of relit the candle last year at least a little bit. He's positioned as a post-post-hype breakout guy this year.

 

But him just being a league average SP would be a huge success.

 

He was supposed to be a bankable Hall of Famer, like Stephen Strasburg with impeccable health.

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