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This is the big leagues of fantasy baseball so if you make a bad trade, people are allowed to roast you for it.... but, we need to cut the disagreements off more quickly in the future. There is nothing productive about fostering animosity within our league ranks like this.

 

You guys have been going shot for shot for a couple of days now. Would be nice for something to just be the bigger man and not reply anymore.

 

Not that I really care.

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but, we need to cut the disagreements off more quickly in the future.

 

No we don't.

 

You guys have been going shot for shot for a couple of days now. Would be nice for something to just be the bigger man and not reply anymore.

 

Nope. People wanna crack to me about s***, everyone's fair game now.

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And I gave my response.

 

Deal with it

 

You accused me of trash talking when I wasn't. I expressed amazement at your inability to distinguish trash talking from fact based opinion. You initiate trash talking despite a continued policy of not doing it, then told me to deal with it.

 

You're a weird one, man.

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You accused me of trash talking when I wasn't. I expressed amazement at your inability to distinguish trash talking from fact based opinion. You initiate trash talking despite a continued policy of not doing it, then told me to deal with it.

 

You're a weird one, man.

 

Don't comment on my trades either.

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Don't comment on my trades either.

 

Why not? I'm free to do so. Aren't you always against the suppression of free speech or is that only when it applies to you?

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Thought you didn't talk s***? Because there's no way that's actually accurate.

 

Why don't we take a poll to see who's team people would rather own right now?

 

I'd take his team over yours easily. At least he several young talented assets on his MLB roster instead of just Matt Harvey and Oscar Taveras.

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Well... that's probably not true, and he'd be your best pitcher.

 

I'd take Shelby Miller, Martin Perez, a healthy Chacin and Griffin over Shoemaker.

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I'd take Shelby Miller, Martin Perez, a healthy Chacin and Griffin over Shoemaker.

 

Eww, I wouldn't consider trading him for any of those guys.

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Posted
I'd probably take Miller over Shoemaker, but definitely not the others. Well, I guess Griffin in Oakland is pretty close.
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Well that might explain why you're like 90 games under 0.500 in two years.

 

I've seen a lot worse teams managed in dynasty over six years, and thats from regular and active posters on this board. Not going to name names, though I wouldn't be worried on how Gibbers operates his team especially only after two years.

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I'd probably take Miller over Shoemaker, but definitely not the others. Well, I guess Griffin in Oakland is pretty close.

 

I agree. Where's North and his PD stats when you need him?

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I'd probably take Miller over Shoemaker, but definitely not the others. Well, I guess Griffin in Oakland is pretty close.

 

Yeah a healthy Griffin definitely. I'd be on the fence with Chacin, though his 2013 season was solid - 4.4 WAR and he's only 26 still. If he's healthy, I've always liked his arm.

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I'd probably take Miller over Shoemaker, but definitely not the others. Well, I guess Griffin in Oakland is pretty close.

 

IMO Miller vs. Shoemaker depends on where your team is in the standings. As a team that wants to win next year, I'll take Shoemaker who I see as being more bankable. If I'm rebuilding, I probably dream on Miller's potential. Maybe.

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Eww, I wouldn't consider trading him for any of those guys.

 

To each's own. Miller and Perez for sure - they are younger, have higher upside and have had success at a younger age at the big league level. Griffin, if healthy in Oakland is a solid starter, and Chacin is just a year removed from a 4.4 WAR season in Colorado. Considering that all those guys are younger, have higher upside, and have had more success than Shoemaker, I think I'd take any of those 4 over him.

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IMO Miller vs. Shoemaker depends on where your team is in the standings. As a team that wants to win next year, I'll take Shoemaker who I see as being more bankable. If I'm rebuilding, I probably dream on Miller's potential. Maybe.

 

I'd still take Miller over Shoemaker even if I'm contending.

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What's not to love about a low K guy in Colorado? This is an fWAR league, isn't it?
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I'd still take Miller over Shoemaker even if I'm contending.

 

I've really gotten away from taking inferior players just because they're younger. Miller has good stuff, but he was replacement-level in our league this year while Shoemaker threw 136 innings with more than 5 K/BB (+ a great playoff start).

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Lolllllllllll @ Chacin over Shoemaker.

 

FWIW, I think jaysblue is just sticking up for his buddy. He's generally pretty good at this.

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FWIW, I think jaysblue is just sticking up for his buddy. He's generally pretty good at this.

 

I'm not sticking up for anybody. I'm just expressing my opinions. Shoemaker came out of nowhere this season as a 28-year-old and I'm not sure he'll continue with that success moving forward. Chacin has had several successful years in the bigs already, and is two years younger. Depends on your strategy and personal preferences. If I'm competing, I'd probably roll the dice on Shoemaker since he's coming off a better season and pitches on a better team. If Chacin is healthy, I've always liked his arm.

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IMO I gave a better offer for Myers, but all prospect evaluations are extremely subjective so I'm not surprised.

 

Crawford's a real nice prospect. Castellanos on the other hand....good bat, but if he moves off 3B due to his putrid defence the value takes a hit.

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Lolllllllllll @ Chacin over Shoemaker.

 

Before the 2014 season, I'm sure everyone in this league would have taken Chacin over Shoemaker. I'm saying if healthy, Chacin has a good live arm and could possibly be a better asset moving forward.

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I'm not sticking up for anybody. I'm just expressing my opinions. Shoemaker came out of nowhere this season as a 28-year-old and I'm not sure he'll continue with that success moving forward. Chacin has had several successful years in the bigs already, and is two years younger. Depends on your strategy and personal preferences. If I'm competing, I'd probably roll the dice on Shoemaker since he's coming off a better season and pitches on a better team. If Chacin is healthy, I've always liked his arm.

 

Has Chacin ever even had a season that would rank him as a top-300 player in our settings? I have a hard time wrapping my head around him being anything but a guy you stream on a Sunday.

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Has Chacin ever even had a season that would rank him as a top-300 player in our settings? I have a hard time wrapping my head around him being anything but a guy you stream on a Sunday.

 

2010, 2011 and 2013.

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Has Chacin ever even had a season that would rank him as a top-300 player in our settings? I have a hard time wrapping my head around him being anything but a guy you stream on a Sunday.

 

WTF is Vogelsong then?

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