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You guys should try and recruit him to the BBDL.

 

We already have one like him. His name is Randy the Robot.

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So basically some random guy with 1 other forum post came to this thread, copied and pasted a post TCA made weeks ago, then vanished.

 

Okay then.

 

I was just about to say, "I had all those players". I'm a little creeped out now...

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I like this deal for jaysblue. Cingrani has been exposed this year and the other pieces are more quantity than quality. The 1st rounder should be in the teens, Piscotty doesn't have much power for a COF, and Herrera and Cain are replacement level IMO.
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I like this deal for jaysblue. Cingrani has been exposed this year and the other pieces are more quantity than quality. The 1st rounder should be in the teens, Piscotty doesn't have much power for a COF, and Herrera and Cain are replacement level IMO.

 

I was willing to Offer Syndergaard + 1st + any prospect in my system, but the yahoo system sucks and my message was lost. I feel like that would have been a much better offer.

 

Cliffs: don't use the yahoo messaging system.

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I was willing to Offer Syndergaard + 1st + any prospect in my system, but the yahoo system sucks and my message was lost. I feel like that would have been a much better offer.

 

Cliffs: don't use the yahoo messaging system.

 

Personally I wouldn't have considered moving him without getting a Top 20 prospect (like Noah) + a 1st and other pieces.

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yeah, a little confused. I feel like I offered more.

 

Jon Niese has to be worth a lot more than Cingrani at this point, right?

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I don't love that return either, would have liked 1 premium asset.

 

Cingrani scares me, personally.

 

He has a goos initial run because of his arm deception, but in the longer run his extreme fastball usage has predictably led to a drop in SwStr% and a spike in HR rate. The career FIP is surprisingly a below average 4.35 now.

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I was upset because I sent three separate offers, and not one of them even got me a reply.

 

If you sent them via yahoo, they probably didn't make it.

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yeah, a little confused. I feel like I offered more.

 

Jon Niese has to be worth a lot more than Cingrani at this point, right?

 

No. You should probably accept that a 27 year old with an extensive injury history isn't a very attractive centrepiece for a rebuilding team.

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No. You should probably accept that a 27 year old with an extensive injury history isn't a very attractive centrepiece for a rebuilding team.

 

I'm still pretty heated about Niese almost being the centerpiece in a deal for Bautista.

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On the plus side, I'm pretty happy that Greinke went to a fringe contender (all due respect) rather than a powerhouse.

 

I'm personally going to spam jaysblue with Greinke offers once his team falls out of it.

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I'm still pretty heated about Niese almost being the centerpiece in a deal for Bautista.

 

Nick has always been the high man on Niese IIRC. Not a bad contributor by any means, but lets run down the reasons why a rebuilding team wouldn't love him:

 

- Nearly 28

- Velo down to 88 MPH

- History of shoulder problems

- SwStr down to a pitiful 6.1%

 

Again, not a bad contributor despite these red flags, but we've seen his upside and it's in the rearview.

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Nick has always been the high man on Niese IIRC. Not a bad contributor by any means, but lets run down the reasons why a rebuilding team wouldn't love him:

 

- Nearly 28

- Velo down to 88 MPH

- History of shoulder problems

- SwStr down to a pitiful 6.1%

 

Again, not a bad contributor despite these red flags, but we've seen his upside and it's in the rearview.

 

He really isn't the type of guy you look for in return for a premium asset unless he's like the 4th piece in the deal or something.

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I'm personally going to spam jaysblue with Greinke offers once his team falls out of it.

 

So... immediately?

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I'm sure you can get him for a similar pa-hahahah sorry, the asking price just went up by a factor of 3.

 

I better start brainstorming who I want to include with Kershaw as the second piece for Greinke.

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No. You should probably accept that a 27 year old with an extensive injury history isn't a very attractive centrepiece for a rebuilding team.

 

Oh he wouldn't have been the centrepiece. I think a guy like Hunter Harvey (offered) or Raimel Tapia (sort of offered) would be more valuable than Niese. Add in the first rounder and Niese might have been the third or fourth best asset.

 

.... If you're pessimistic about Niese. He has some unattractive aspects for sure, but he remains extremely fantasy relevant and somehow he's staying on the field, still young, never really did throw hard.

Posted
How could anyone not be high on Tapia?

 

He was #2 on my MiLB draft list after Nimmo. Tools for days #want

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But FWIW, I like Tapia's fantasy pontential as much as or more than any bat taken in our draft this year.

 

I love Tapia a lot too but when i found out what i had to add to get him included in the deal i was turned off quickly

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