The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I never confirmed that 4 way deal..VETO! s***, you're right. Blame BTS. He was the one who processed it.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I'm looking like: C - Mike Zunino 1B - Eric Hosmer 2B - Ian Kinsler SS - Alexei Ramirez 3B - Aramis Ramirez OF - Mike Trout OF - Hunter Pence OF - Curtis Granderson UTIL - Nick Castellanos BN: Adam LaRoche SP - Clayton Kershaw SP - Matt Moore SP - Jordan Zimmermann SP - Jered Weaver SP - Justin Masterson SP - Ervin Santana SP - Jeremy Hellickson SP - Scott Feldman SP - Ryan Dempster (maybe) RP - Mark Melancon RP - Pedro Strop I'll likely target a vet to fill out my UTIL at some point over the season. Not sure what's happening with Dempster yet. He would be my last keeper if I knew he would be given a rotation spot. I'm going to punt saves so I'll probably be picking up 3 relievers in the waiver draft.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 You have a good #1-3 too. Except that fish guy. he drags your team down. I'd dump him if I were you.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Dingers - Fernandez, Sale, Sanchez? I think it may be a toss up. Bumgarner > Sanchez
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Bumgarner > Sanchez still a toss up. You may have me with 1-4. Unless of course Bradley goes all Cuban on me.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 still a toss up. You may have me with 1-4. Unless of course Bradley goes all Cuban on me. If Bradley pitches well enough to rival dinger's top 4, I will proceed to jump off a cliff.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 still a toss up. You may have me with 1-4. Unless of course Bradley goes all Cuban on me. How do your 5/6 stack up with Shields and Medlen?
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 How do your 5/6 stack up with Shields and Medlen? So many questions so little time.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 If Bradley pitches well enough to rival dinger's top 4, I will proceed to jump off a cliff. Leave me Trout in your will?
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 My Roster is looking like is going to wind up being C - Brian McCann 1B - James Loney 2B - Ryan Raburn SS - Jose Reyes 3B - Pablo Sandoval CF - Lorenzo Cain OF - Domonic Brown CF - Marcell Ozuna CF - Nate MCLouth C - Josmil Pinto SP - Josh Johnson SP - Matt Garza SP - Dan Straily SP - Dylan Bundy SP - Sean Nolin SP - Jorge De La Rosa (this saddens me) RP - Ryan Cook RP - Sean Doolittle RP - Sergio Santos RP - Fernando Rodney My rotation is a mess so I'll need to hope for a good performance from Tanaka and bounce back years from Johnson and Garza. It could be decent if that happens. I've got lots of rotation backup in the high minors that I'll also need to hope for. That and a good year by Taveras would help me a lot.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Leave me Trout in your will? Sorry, I'm leaving you Scott Feldman and it's already been finalized.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Sorry, I'm leaving you Scott Feldman and it's already been finalized. Well that's unfortunate
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I'd say Masterson is your number 2. That's a pretty good top 4. Steamer has Masterson as my #2 by projected fWAR.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Yusmeiro Petit is now gone from the WAR Puigs. I also have a problem regarding my MiLB roster. I have 1 over the limit which means I have to get rid of one. Nick Delmonico or Miles Head is gonna get the boot. I know there are some teams that are under the limit so if they're interested in acquiring one of those prospects they can get them for a draft pick or draft pick upgrade. Now's your chance to get some Head!
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I also have a problem regarding my MiLB roster. PMed you.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Steamer has Masterson as my #2 by projected fWAR. How did you get Trout, Clayton, and Moore on your team. You traded high level prospects or something? Cant imagine it'd be possible via draft
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 My projections agree. What's your projections say about Juan Nicasio? I was gonna drop him but Streamer has him for 2.9WAR good for 29th overall among starters.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I like Zimmermann more than Masterson for 2014. Matt Moore might never be an elite arm in a K/BB league.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 19, 2014 Author Posted January 19, 2014 People need to stop caring so much about projected WAR for pitchers. Look at the rate stats. Steamer is just pulling IP out of its ass.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I like Zimmermann more than Masterson for 2014. Matt Moore might never be an elite arm in a K/BB league. Or an elite OBPA guy. Zimmerman is both. ERA is only one category yet the way people obsess over FIP, xFIP and TIPS you'd think it was everything.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 19, 2014 Author Posted January 19, 2014 My Roster is looking like is going to wind up being C - Brian McCann 1B - James Loney 2B - Ryan Raburn SS - Jose Reyes 3B - Pablo Sandoval CF - Lorenzo Cain OF - Domonic Brown CF - Marcell Ozuna CF - Nate MCLouth C - Josmil Pinto SP - Josh Johnson SP - Matt Garza SP - Dan Straily SP - Dylan Bundy SP - Sean Nolin SP - Jorge De La Rosa (this saddens me) RP - Ryan Cook RP - Sean Doolittle RP - Sergio Santos RP - Fernando Rodney My rotation is a mess so I'll need to hope for a good performance from Tanaka and bounce back years from Johnson and Garza. It could be decent if that happens. I've got lots of rotation backup in the high minors that I'll also need to hope for. That and a good year by Taveras would help me a lot. De La Rosa is a pretty dusty keeper. Steamer is guessing that he'll have an ERA over 4.5, K/BB under 2, and a WHIP over 1.4. Yucky! A guy like Bud Norris projects for marked improvements in every relevant category.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 What's your projections say about Juan Nicasio? I was gonna drop him but Streamer has him for 2.9WAR good for 29th overall among starters. 7.63 K/9, 3.36 BB/9, 2.3 WAR in 189 IP.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 De La Rosa is a pretty dusty keeper. Steamer is guessing that he'll have an ERA over 4.5, K/BB under 2, and a WHIP over 1.4. Yucky! A guy like Bud Norris projects for marked improvements in every relevant category. He is 100% my bubble guy. I still feel like there is a deal to be made with someones roster overflow. I'll see what comes up.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 JFaS, who should I keep of Brett Oberholtzer and Grant Green? I'm leaning Oberholtzer but if Green can hit he'll be a much more valuable player. Whichever one I don't keep will be imminently available in trade for a pick upgrade.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 19, 2014 Author Posted January 19, 2014 That's in a vacuum though... So with Coors and Wilin Rosario rolled on top, I'm guessing a 4.5+ ERA. Rosario is a s*** framer, right?
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 People need to stop caring so much about projected WAR for pitchers. Look at the rate stats. Steamer is just pulling IP out of its ass. I actually completely agree with you here. I stopped taking steamer serious anyway when they projected Clayton Kershaw for 3.7 WAR. TBH I normally don't even look at WAR for fantasy baseball.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Matt Moore might never be an elite arm in a K/BB league. IMPOSSIBLE. 2.00 ERA 290 K this year.
Fearthedoc Verified Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 How did you get Trout, Clayton, and Moore on your team. You traded high level prospects or something? Cant imagine it'd be possible via draft Drafted Trout and Moore as my 1st and 3rd, and then traded Teheran + Bradley + 20th MiLB in the upcoming draft for Kershaw.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Drafted Trout and Moore as my 1st and 3rd, and then traded Teheran + Bradley + 20th MiLB in the upcoming draft for Kershaw. I ended up trading him Kershaw when I went on a trading spree. Ended up trading the 20th MiLB again too. Total running for Kershaw ended up Teheran + Archie Bradley + Jarred Parker + Jesse Hahn.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 19, 2014 Author Posted January 19, 2014 I actually completely agree with you here. I stopped taking steamer serious anyway when they projected Clayton Kershaw for 3.7 WAR. TBH I normally don't even look at WAR for fantasy baseball. Yeah, I wasn't even saying that with respect to fantasy baseball. WAR is essentially irrelevant for fantasy, unless you play in some kind of nuanced, nerdy league based on linear weights (I do!). But even with real life baseball, looking at projected WAR for pitchers just seems so silly some times. Like, Steamer has Kershaw, Garza, and Juan Nicasio projected for 192, 192, and 189 innings pitched, respectively. They're not even really trying to project playing time, so looking at WAR is misleading. WAR is just tacked on to the end of the statline because it's what people want to see. That doesn't mean the projections are bad or shouldn't be taken seriously. I just think they get misused.
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