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I haven't looked at it in that detail but what you say makes sense, framing / receiving skills don't really slump. Inconsistent playing time also hasn't helped

This is a big problem

Need to start challenging some of these players with a promotion to the majors, of course based on performance but also sometimes based on age

Difficult to watch him struggle after what he did last season, I still think the bat is for real but he probably won't hit for power, above average on base numbers which is valuable from that position. and his receiving skills haven't slumped, called strikes below

..just watching the replay of the game now... Espinal with the assist on Sanchez throwing out Merrifield at 3rd

nah

"Mayza and the team’s pitching coaches sat down to create an offseason plan. The priority: create a better slider." (your bold and not mine) This is wonderful but every pitcher on every major league team sits down with their coaches to create an off season plan. This is like saying he came into camp "in the best shape ever". Still valuable and good he's working on improving, keep in mind Mayza's outings by leverage: 18 Low, 6 medium and 6 high I am intrigued by the Pitching Lab though and look forward to seeing what it can produce - the fact that they are modeling it after college ball is a good sign - it's what the Dodgers did to get their hitting development back on track a few years ago. Should have done this in 2016 - might have produced more major league talent by now.

prospects bro...

You tell by looking at the major league talent - it's the only sure way. I was really referring to the High Performance Department that started way back when the current FO took over. So we have to wait a few more years to see what the Lab produced - that will be 9/10 years with this FO that's unacceptable IMO Ricky T is hurt isn't he? there's no proof that it helped Mayza a 31 year old MLB veteran, Berrios was pretty much a stud when we got him

did it really though? or was it always part of the High Performance Department? that's why I mentioned the 7+ years that the hpd has been in existence

in 7+ years what has the lab produced in terms of major league pitching talent?

so how long a rope?

I don't know what do you think?

Painter might have to get TJ

for that play at 2nd Berrios didn't recognize the situation and threw behind the runner - had he hesitated a bit and ran straight towards Grisham to get him in a run down - it would have been an easy out. Outstanding game though by Berrios, team didn't hit or at least didn't cash in runners when needed

for sure but why would Vlady's arb come in at 25M? maybe it comes into play in his last arb year but certainly won't be this winter. I doubt we see the Bellinger numbers - he was bottom of the barrel bad and yes absolutely mvp numbers are still possible

If that's true why do the Jays keep him? release him right now

the Dodgers (Mark Prior) knew how to manage him, it's just not working here

and how has that worked out for the Padres?

The Dodgers could afford to release him because they have the BEST development system in the majors and were confident at replacing him, unlike the Jays. Also not a sure it's a fair comparison They are different players with different swing "styles" Dodgers hitting philosophy was based on (and still is) getting the ball in the up in the air - this philosophy started from the low minors and continued upto to the majors. It has worked wonders with many players - Chris Taylor, Muncy, Turner to name a few. Unfortunately for whatever reason Bellinger wasn't able to adjust once the league figured him out. He has been much better this season. I don't know Jays hitting philosophy, like everything they do it's secretive - as far as I can tell it's not the same as what the Dodgers preach but more of "use the entire field" "go the other way" "up the middle"...etc This might reduce Vlady's power numbers - it will and it has - but at least it will keep his OBP and BA fairly high or at least above average. Is he a beast like we all thought he would be - right now he is not. All is not lost though he's still a special talent. and my question still stands....replace him with who?

we start moving guys down pretty soon no one will be batting 1,2,3;)

and replace him with who exactly?

He's on the wrong team, just look at how many bats this team has developed in almost 8 season under this FO. An argument can be made Vlady doesn't need development - but maybe the messaging has messed him up.

Would anyone be really surprised? being s***** at about everything they do for the past 10 years

where have you been. Manoah calls the shots here not Atkins and certainly not Schneider