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I don’t see a match with Houston or minnesota unless a swap of hunter brown (28) for Jansen (27) could happen with Astros Brewers line up for Jansen (27) for frelick (cf 55 future value (23) and a sp ( gasser/small ) (3) https://www.mlb.com/prospects/brewers/sal-frelick-686217 https://www.mlb.com/prospects/brewers/robert-gasser-688107 https://www.mlb.com/prospects/brewers/ethan-small-663629

Well here is what BBTV comes in at for fair value. Sidenote: (I saw a previous recent post where poster put the Bbtv values next to the players in a proposed trade. Can we make that a thing to add legitimacy and starting point for trade discussions) ??? Walker and Moreno both come in at 61. Jansen 27 for graceffo 19 (sp 55 future value) and Baez (OF they hope can stick in CF but a ways away future value 45) Kirk 39 for graceffo 19 and Burleson 16.5 (OF 55 future value). Both should be in mlb this year Here are the page links- https://www.mlb.com/prospects/cardinals/jordan-walker-691023 https://www.mlb.com/prospects/cardinals/gordon-graceffo-700669 https://www.mlb.com/prospects/cardinals/joshua-baez-695491 https://www.mlb.com/prospects/cardinals/alec-burleson-676475

It just makes too much sense that we trade Moreno to stl and they have another stud catcher for 20 years, right? And if we hold him, he flops. Real talk though, you gotta factor in moreno timeline and current value (high). If it is gonna take him 3 seasons to really bust out, which wouldn’t be crazy for a young catcher, maybe he is the one we move

Remember the Sox chose to QO, just to trade him, kimbrel but thought rodon was a poor investment. It certainly screamed (and maybe still does) scream red flag to me. He’s still my number 1 FA (realistic) target. I think he’ll get around gAuss/Ray money. Verlander opts out and gets a 2 year deal around 40m aav I’d think. No clue what degrom will get. At the numbers podcast threw out bargain (below 10m) on one year deals to guys like britton, Bradley, Clevenger/kluber. Those 3 would be an interesting offseason imo and would wreak of Atkins if you ask me. Maybe trade Jansen for a real good looking OF(preferably OF, but prob more risk there) and SP in preparation for lgj and teo leaving as well as Clevinger/kluber. Any thoughts on what a sp/of package for Jansen could be worthwhile? Maybe LGJ goes as well

Despite what WAR will tell you, I’m more upset Delgado didn’t get in and got the shaft even more as he has more of what traditional HOF numbers look like. But ya. Olerud PLUS 5m for Robert person Was horrible.

I heard olerud f***ed Citos wife. And yes, he kept the helmet on as he is a very vigorous lover. Let’s just say his bat isn’t the only thing that swings lefty.

And if my aunt had nuts, we’d call her my uncle

I was gonna say the same thing. He got .7 pct of vote when eligible in 2011. That year, the top 10 vote getters eventually got in HOF. In 2012, 8 of the top 10-same In 2013, 9 of the top 10 and also clemens, bonds and schilling joined as well. Just wouldn’t have stayed on long enough to get in. Tough time to be eligible.

Report- ryu insurance This is something that’s been talked about quite a bit in the past but the details are a little murky. Ryu, of course, inked a four-year, $80 million deal with the Blue Jays back in December of 2019. He had an excellent showing in the pandemic-shortened 2020 season, started off well in 2021 but faded as time went along, and then completely fell off early in 2022 and wound up having season-ending elbow surgery in June. There’s a chance that Ryu comes back late in 2023 but the reasonable bet here is that he’s thrown his last pitch for the Blue Jays. Given Ryu’s injury history (he missed all of 2015 and most of 2016 after undergoing shoulder surgery and was limited to 15 starts in 2018 because of a groin injury), having his contract insured would have been the prudent move for the Blue Jays to make, even if they had to pay a significant premium. But, unfortunately, this whole situation isn’t as simple as ‘the insurance company is going to give the Blue Jays $20 million to compensate for Ryu so that financial commitment is off the books now!’ I spoke with a source familiar with sports contracts and insurance and they told me that payouts won’t start until a player has been on the Injured List for two months, so the Blue Jays likely won’t be getting insurance funds for the entirety of the $20 million Ryu is owed next season. Meanwhile, Ben Nicholson-Smith mentioned on Sportsnet recently that the claim can’t be filed until the contract is over, so the Blue Jays wouldn’t recoup any money until after the 2023 season. Also, as far as I know, Ryu’s salary would still be considered in luxury tax calculations, which are based on the average annual value of a contract, and the Blue Jays have indicated in the past that they aren’t going to be going over that threshold. So, all things considered, don’t expect a $20 million spending spree this winter because of Ryu’s insurance money. This will add flexibility, for sure, but it might be more relevant come trade deadline time next summer rather than during the off-season.

That’s f***in funny. Now I need to hear the terminator backstory.

Any truth to the rumor ryu contract was insured?

Wouldn’t a runner on 2nd with a great view rip off the batter to challenge? I also don’t trust that a manager couldn’t be tipped off immediately and relay it to the batter. I’d just go robo ump and I think biggio would agree

I just came across it today as I was hungry for some off-season ideas to dig into. It does break down its reasoning pretty well so prob worth using to mess around with. Prob find some stuff to quibble with like how they have nimmo being worth like 11 or so where another site said 20

I’d just hold onto him for another year. Whit is only here for another year and espinal is best used only vs LHP. I still believe in biggio as the strong side of a 2b platoon. I have Whit taking tapia spot as of now with biggio and espinal at 2b primarily. Let barger get half a season in aaa or come up when an injury occurs. I don’t think biggio value has much to lose at this point.

Click on the projected salary next to the name and it shows the details on that

It’s possible she felt he was the best person for the job. I mean that’s the criteria i always go by.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/ Projects 16.5AAV

Kluber is good again? Totally missed that. Really just watch jays games K/9 down 2 from his career average but his bb/9 was about 1/2 of his career average. I think with Kikuchi/white starts out of the 5 hole and a question mark in berrios, I think the new SP can’t be risky. This is how we end up with roarks though.

Ya I’m not sure what their payroll constraints will be. Theyre gonna have to drop to another 20m if they want to retain Verlander again. I’d think he will get more than one year as well guaranteed this time. Dude is a machine.

I don’t think bassit will get that either

I’m seeing 3/60 for bassit. I’d think that would be doable

What about their 2 catching prospects I mentioned? Both got mlb ab last year

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/ Free agent predicted values

Are the 3 year ZIP projections on fangraphs up to date or are they from before the season?

Also their 7th ranked prospect reached mlb last year as well after a 790 ops aaa mark. That’s their 4 and 7 ranked prospects per mlb.com