TwistedLogic

Colabello and Donaldson were friends before Colabello was acquired by the Jays.

Nobody said anything about how consistent he's been. We know that he has been inconsistent. The home/road splits are all you need to look at for that. The whole argument was whether or not Hutchison deserves to be sent down, and whether or not he's been anywhere nearly as terrible as his ERA dictates, and the answer to both is a resounding "NO".

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If anyone's in the mood for some cardboard right now: http://i.gyazo.com/7ec4dd0ebc10f7555f81c2f191f392fa.png

No he can't. Poor fastball command would result in poor command of the strike zone, and Hutch has had very good control this year (top 50): http://i.gyazo.com/5c7c6e59e5b7904416afc105edd8f8ba.png

Watching every start is what has created the biases that lead to your incorrect conclusion. You're trying to prove that Hutchison's up and down year is not solely based on luck (and maybe it isn't), but the numbers you're using are doing the exact opposite of what you want them to. The fact that Hutchison has given the fourth highest LD% among pitchers does prove that he has been extremely unlucky, because he has no control over his LD%. In fact, in 2013, he had the exact same 25.4 LD%, and his BABIP was at .291, 60 points lower than what it is right now. http://i.gyazo.com/27fc45b5cc52644448122102463724d0.png http://i.gyazo.com/0086b49251f0baf2889042bbecc4faba.png If your claim that Hutch doesn't have consistent control over his pitches was accurate, he wouldn't be striking out guys three times as often as he's walking them. The whole point of ERA and ERA estimators is to provide you with a consistent number; an average. All of his peripherals tell us that throughout all the inconsistency, he is on average, a good pitcher. One of the best the Blue Jays have right now. There's nothing they can do to work on him in-season, and demoting him would be the mind-numbingly stupidest move they could make.

And this screenshot proves that the 17 pitchers who've given up the least line drives have an average BABIP of .277 http://i.gyazo.com/43765e33bef3eace9f7f02928b1a049b.png This whole discussion is stupid, and I completely disagree with Maafaace that there's any reason to put stock in the hard contact Hutch has been giving up (it actually proves that he's been unlucky, not that he has any control over it), I just thought the back-and-forth between him and Boxy made no sense.

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lol, Maahfaace makes a claim that Hutch is giving up hard contact and that is subsequently inflating his BABIP number. Boxy calls ********, while simultaneously proving Maahfaace's point with a screenshot that clearly shows Hutch has given up the 4th highest LD% in the majors.

I don't really care that Hutch has better peripherals than Buehrle. I shouldn't have to tell you that Buehrle is an outlier. Buehrle always outperforms his xFIP and SIERA, he's done it throughout his entire career, and as always, he's doing it again. The difference between their FIP-based WAR is negligible enough to where I can put stock in Buehrle's far better RA9-WAR and justifiably claim that he's been the better, more valuable arm in 2015.

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He's not better than Buehrle. Well he is, but he hasn't been so far in 2015.

Man, Drew Hutchison is such an above-average pitcher.

What if you think Hutchison has been brilliant at home? Is that better? Home: 2.39 FIP, 1.94 BB/9, 8.82 K/9, 0.35 HR/9, .284 BABIP Road: 5.32 FIP, 3.64 BB/9, 7.50 K/9, 1.71 HR/9, .416 BABIP (this is obviously unsustainable) I think it's fair to say he's been excellent at home. Really excellent. As Aaron Sanchez (a lesser pitcher) would put it, he's been "on fleek" at home. Again, maybe that changes as the year goes on, but it's the all star break and he's still the same dude who is obliterating his opposition at home.

Pretty much every team is in the race, but the A's are less in the race than most teams. Especially if Kazmir goes down. Anthopoulos all-but guaranteed that he's going to make a move on his interview with Tim & Sid yesterday. They can't not do anything this year.

You mean he's the team's second best pitcher.

So what the hell does that even mean? Why do his road starts matter more than his home starts? If his home starts are good enough to create an overall FIP of 3.65, an xFIP of 3.80 and a SIERA of 3.78, how do you justify sending him down? You don't, unless you're an idiot. His OVERALL numbers (the AVERAGE of his home and road stats) are enough to make him a top-40 pitcher in the majors in value. Anyone who advocates sending him down is retarded.

Not that it makes a ton of sense to trade your guys before the All-Star break, but if Kazmir is legitimately hurt, this would mark the second year in a row where a GM hung onto a pitcher for too long. Last year, it was Cliff Lee. Cueto could be in a similar boat, with his elbow being somewhat of a concern. I just hope that if this FO finally acquires a notable arm before the deadline, it isn't one of these guys that are about to fall apart.

So how hard opposing batters are hitting his pitches is determined by Drew Hutchison?

Who gives a s*** what his road FIP is, when his actual FIP is 3.69? That means he's compensating for his road struggles by consistently dominating at home. Which means overall, he's an above average starter, and overall, he is very valuable to the Blue Jays major league rotation. Drew Hutchison has been the Jays 2nd best starter this year.

Sucks to see Gordon hurt like that. This probably means Jose is starting in the All Star game now.

Kazmir left in the middle of the OAK/NYY game with "left triceps tightness".

The field for the derby is f***ing great this year. They're showcasing so much premium young talent. What a bomb squad.

This is the first time that I've ever honestly felt confident that a Blue Jay can win the derby. Excited to watch.

Nope.