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This was mind numbing to listen to this morning. They weren't sourced up, they just assumed the Giants were expecting him to turn down the QO to net them a draft pick. Which, this doesn't even make sense because mot people expected him to take the QO, but the Jays offer of $40M was enough to at least make him think on it. Plus with the loss of draft pick, the Jays valued him at ~$45M. If they would give up 3/45 for Gausman, of COURSE they'd take him at 1/19... None of them seem capable at looking at anything but ERA, or how he performed in Baltimore. Eduardo did kind of run through some of the improved peripherals, but Bowden and Phillips just couldn't move on from how much of an atrocity it was to "double the salary" of someone like Gausman. Which begs the questions, if he was able to land $9M last offseason and had a great 10 starts, what would they be willing to pay him now? Is $12M reasonable? $14M? So they're losing it on the radio over what they perceive as like $4-6M overpay on a one year deal? How is that little money the reason for calling it an atrocious move? Idiots...

Oh good, we are doing the AA vs current FO thing again! My quick breakdown is this: AA had some incredible strengths (persistence, keeping things quiet, contract extensions, media savvy). Through no fault of his own, his only front office experience being in Toronto hindered his ability to grow and come to appreciate some of the critical things more well rounded front offices value (analytics, r&d, resources for minor leaguers, etc). This left AA as a guy who seemed to perform well at the surface level (what most fans see), while falling behind in areas that would seemingly show themselves over the coming decade. So Shapiro disagreement aside, AA made a really smart career move to go work for and learn from the Dodgers. This put him in position to be a high performing executive moving forward, and I'd be quite fine with him being in charge of my team. However, I also fully believe in what Shapiro has built and cultivated in Toronto, and I wouldn't want it any other way (unless the alternative options were TB/LAD front offices). In summary, both execs are fine in their own way, but I don't think we'd be in great shape if AA had never left and was given the keys by Shapiro.

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Vladdy said he's dropped 32 lbs total, 12 in the offseason alone. So my interpretation of that is he's 248 now, had been as high as 280 (after returning to ST 2.0)

Probably for the same reason that American players who play in Asia don't speak their languages.

I’ve wondered if they would combine 2018 and 3019 records to determine a draft order? Or possible have a draft lottery. I believe the Jays would pick 7th if it was 2018+2019.

I'd be shocked to see it exceed $7M unless, like I said, they had some kind of verbal agreement prior to selecting him.

People are putting way too much stock in the Boras element here. The only way he’s pushing number 2 slot money is if the jays offered it during the draft, to scare off the teams in front of them. Otherwise, Martin has zero leverage in asking for #2 money. What’s he going to do, she a year and possibly play college baseball as a senior before re-entering the draft?

When can teams begin signing UDFAs again? Is it right after the draft, or tomorrow?

Thanks Slade! Reallllly hoping Veen doesn't end up going to KC

Welp, back to asking - anyone have this for us? Slade?

Hello, Slade https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/29161728/how-abbreviated-2020-mlb-draft-impacts-year-beyond

Awesome! I was hoping to see the top 50 one way or another.

So someone on here has direct access to ESPN+ content! That's good news as we approach the draft.

"The Jays have lots of similarly valued options at this pick, but the strongest buzz is they were enamored with Veen during multiple early-spring looks while many of their execs and scouts were in Florida for spring training. Minnesota RHP Max Meyer is another leading option here." FWIW, I have a team source who's said they're very high on Gonzales as well.

Someone shared Kiley’s mock top 6 with me. Torkelson Martin Lacy Hancock Veen Gonzales

Welp, Kiley posted a mock draft this morning on ESPN+. Would be ideal if it was available in Canada!

Veen underslot followed by Ginn overslot would be a pretty fantastic first two rounds for the Jays. Though I'd imagine someone else would try to land Ginn overslot before 42.

You can't get it in Canada, which decreases my moral compass here as I'd be happy to pay if it was an option. If someone has a VPN run through the US, that could work. Just not something I'm looking to set up.

So nobody on this board has ESPN+? I'd kill for some good draft content right now!

I’ve been talking myself into Veen for the past month. There’s a lot to like there.

ESPN changing Insider to be wrapped up into +, when nobody outside of the US even has the chance to lawfully purchase it, was so frustrating. I had Insider for years because it paired with a super cheap ESPN Mag subscription. Really hate missing out on Kiley's stuff.

Anybody have ESPN+ that can copy and paste? Kiley just released a massive draft rankings piece for next three drafts. https://t.co/pvgFdMyGCP

He's been basically the same player over the last 3 seasons, and he received $16.5M TOTAL via 2 one years deals. It was very fair to assume 3/30 had a chance to get it done.

Anyone in the US have ESPN+? Kiley just dropped his top 100.