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Time to revisit the Alejandro Kirk is our Juan Soto discussion

TJ Zoinks

Based on what? Boyd destroyed every level of the minor leagues before a hiccup in his first MLB stint and has been a perfectly fine league average starter (above average at peak). I would say his career has played out exactly the way I would have expected it to, nothing more nothing less.

Boyds 8.6 fWAR is a top 50 starter in baseball since 2016 lol. What are you going on about? He has been pretty f***ing good. The same fWAR as guys like Danny Duffy and Mike Leake who commanded 60 to 80 mil on the free agent market

Wait, I just saw Ryan Borucki's stats this season Where are the guys who wanted him in the rotation? Yuck

Does Boxy even try to be right?

Never thought I would see the day when someone would argue Vlad has above average speed.

ftfy

Here is my comments on the time at the trade - "Simeon Woods-Richardson is basically like trading for the prospect equivalent of Noah Syndergaard, probably better. Pretty much a lock to be an ace just a matter of time before it happens. Casuals are just mad because we acquired an elite prospect they have never heard of. Put your agendas away, fellas. Atkins got potentially the best pitching prospect in baseball in the deal. That's a win." Boxy foolishly compared the trade to the Price for Adames trade, which worked out splendidly for the Rays, as I said it would at the time. Boxy actually compared SWR to Triston McKenzie (as a negative) who is now a #1 SP for Cleveland.

Gruber92 Ross Atkins is a beta male who gets f***ed consistently, in all aspects. I really hope there's something more to the trade with another team involved. The Mets farm system is who he settled on with three days left in the trade deadline? So basically, we got f***ed, AGAIN. I really hope that everybody can now agree that Ross Atkins will get us nowhere. Glory Remember the good old days when we thought we'd get a top 100 prospect at the very least? Fun times. Ugh. We traded a legit #2-3 starter who wants to be here long term even when the team is dog s*** for a package centered around Anthony Kay. This is reality guys. The Shatkins nut riders will spin this into a positive shortly. I’m actually hoping they do. I need something to cheer me up. BTS Gross. I’m getting pretty closed to being convinced that Ross Atkins is a f***ing idiot. Would not be upset if Shapiro replaced him. Digital Rock Wow.. That doesn't sound exciting. 43211234 My initial reaction is it's super underwhelming if it's just those two. Terminator Pathetic return thatoneguy Fire Atkins. This is ********. Laika Not a great return, fam. SWR has real upside but I'm surprised a SAL arm was the best return available for Stroman. At least he has a three letter acroname to pair with SRF. Kay seems like a backend SP prospect right now. saskjaysfan we got a back end of the rotation guy and a prospect who won't be ready for 3 years. By the time he gets up we'll be talking about trading Vlad. PhillyBlueJay Now it is time to really throw up, all those other teams needing pitching and Atkins f***s this up completely. I would have been happy with just a one for one swap of a top 50 pitching prospect from another organization. But this.... this is lottery tickets for a top 5 pitcher with one year left of control. Atkins you are incompetent and just as well you held on to Stroman for another year. What an utter disaster of a trade..... these two guys might crack a top 100 list in two years and that is a big "MIGHT". One guy is 24 and might not reach the majors until 26. Grant77 This return is unacceptable, one of the worst I have ever seen at the time of the trade. Worse than the Dickey trade. Why are we treating Stroman like a Kevin Gausman/JA Happ type asset. That's the type of return we got. Good teams take a guy like Yu Darvish or Aroldis Chapman and turn them into elite prospects. That's why we are never going to be good with this regime. They can't properly evaluate talent outside of the draft and thry have proven that time and time again. I'm beyond disappointed in what they did here. It's a fireable offense for Atkins. Boxcar One of those trades that everyone loses. Why the f*** are the Mets trading for Stroman? Why did the Jays trade him for a s***** return? Atkins appears to be a s***** GM.

90% of the board hated the trade at the time and thought we should have gotten more. Boxcar heavily included.

Boxcar sees similarities between himself and kirk that's why hes jerking him off so much

Pearson looks like s***. Manoahs got arm trouble already. Tellez stepped on a "soft spot" on the ground and f***ed up his knee. f*** Fatties!

Starters are allowed to go deep into games. Just not s***** ones. Tanner Roark f***ing sucks and should probably pitch better if he wants to go more than 2 times through the order on a consistent basis.

Funny, you guys take pot shots when I can't reply. Very sad.

Not sure why the mods are letting this continue, but, this doesnt excuse you for being a racist.

Yet you continue on.

This one right here officer.

Apologizing for using the N-Word doesn't seem like a big ask. Also, your ban was a 2-day slap on the wrist.

Not sure what that has to do with anything. And again, I'm not sure in what context using the N-Word as a joke is funny, but it's definitely not this one. All you have to do is apologize and show you understand why it was wrong, but apparently you can't even do that. Very sad.

Hurl thinks AJ Cole is attractive, for some reason. That should tell you all you need to know.

It says a lot more about you than it does about me, that's for sure.

Thanks for proving my point. Also, I'm not sure in what context using the N-Word with a Hard R is considered slang, but definitely not this one.

The guy who used the N-Word on a public message board, and didn't apologize for it or seem to understand why it was wrong, is going after other people for being classy.

TheHurl