Jimcanuck

Carroll is a high schooler, how can you say he has no holes in his game? Jays have plenty of middle infield prospects that can easily switch to OF. Plus there is free agency, trades, etc. Draft should always be BPA.

David something? edit - was thinking of David Purcey, a dud not as much of a dud as Deck McGuire though

oh come on..... trying to fill roster spots at the time of the draft is a fool's errand

It's rare for a pitcher to have 3 plus pitches as of draft day. Not every draft pitcher is Casey Mize. Manoah has got at least 2 years of development before he sees a MLB diamond. Plenty of time to develop a 3rd, and even a 4th pitch.

He's ranked #78 on the BA board.

Blue Jays Alek Manoah, RHP, West Virginia (BA RANK: 13) Source: 4YR • Ht: 6-6 • Wt: 260 • B-T: R-R • Commitment/Drafted: Never Drafted Manoah split time between starting and relieving during his first two seasons with West Virginia, but after a stellar campaign as a starter in the Cape Cod League last summer—when he posted a 2.70 ERA with 48 strikeouts in 33.1 innings—Manoah has made a successful transition to a full-time starting role this spring. Through his first 12 starts this season, Manoah has been one of the more dominant arms in the country, posting a 2.07 ERA with 108 strikeouts over his first 82.2 innings (11.76 strikeouts per nine innings) and the lowest walk rate (2.29 per nine) of his career. Manoah mostly works off of two pitches—a power fastball that sits in the mid- to upper 90s and a hard slider that projects as a second plus pitch. While Monoah has shown a changeup at times, he’s mostly been a two-pitch starter this season. He also entered the season with significant reliever risk because of his erratic control, large, 6-foot-6, 260-pound frame and questionable athleticism. However, he has started pitching exclusively out of the stretch and, as a result, has improved his strike-throwing ability enough to give him a real shot of sticking as a starter in pro ball. But while his walk rate is down significantly this season, Manoah still needs to refine his command—as evidenced by 17 hit batters over his first 12 starts—and teams will likely be concerned with how well he is able to manage his body moving forward. This list of major league starting pitchers who have had success at or near Manoah’s size is a short one, with CC Sabathia, Aaron Harang, Justin Masterson and Michael Pineda some of the names who qualify. Still, Manoah’s stuff compares nicely with most of the pitchers in the 2019 class, and he’s steadily improved his draft stock with each start. Manoah should be one of the first college pitchers drafted this June.

So how soon might we see Manoah in TO? 2021?

Like Roger Clemens, you mean?

Hmmmmm...... not too excited about this. Fat, and a pitcher.

I use it all the time in the way you used it.

Stroman yes, not Giles. SP are volatile, RP much more so. Plus, guys like Giles have gotten significant returns in recent years.

Like I said, team loses 100 games this year, they will get into the FA market. Won't be Shatkins call.

Jays have significant financial flexibility. Still plenty of time for the young guys to show nice results this season and help attract some FA in the offseason. If this is a 100 loss season, I have little doubt the Jays will be players in the FA market to an extent they haven't been in recent years.

Can't find the responses you refer to. Maybe be more specific as to what has gotten under your skin, snowflake.

Link?

I couldn't find those two posts. But I understand now. I got under your skin and you've been waiting for your chance to get back at me.

I'm contending in BORED and BBDL so did not neglect those. Where did I talk s***?

Never saw Maahface's post. What does it matter to you guys anyway? All of last week I was at my 77 yr old Dad's place getting it ready to go up for sale tomorrow. So I didn't pay much attention to LOD.

Damn, if Smoak is that good, imagine what he would return in trade. Then, sign him in the offseason. Win-Win.

Thanks for the advice but I am not neglecting it. With multiple regulars on the IL and guys like Aguilar sucking miserably, this is a lost season. Might as well elevate up the waiver wire and boost my draft standing.

Did Greenwood ever win in LOD? As I've said before the team was good but not good enough, with a s*** farm.

I took over Frenchsoup's s*** BORED team less than 2 years ago. No dispersal. Yes, killed it in the BBDL dispersal last year.

Don't be a sore loser. See you in the playoffs.

Right, which will happen closer to the deadline

No, but with half my team on the IL, and most of the rest stinking it up, I'm not feeling too engaged right now.