Jimcanuck

If it's taking this long for a Sogard trade to go down, might be part of a bigger deal. Sogard and Stro to the Dodgers?

If the best offer for Stroman is Tucker.... do you take it, or no?

That's silly. Tucker would come with years of control. Stroman has a little over a year of control left. Stroman is a pitcher, and you should be aware of the relative injury risk - pitchers and position players.

i just looked at the MetsLOL prospect list. Other than ineligible recent draftees..... blech

Stripling to the DL, Dodgers got to be in play for Stro

Oh you poor baby

No kidding Spank. But plenty of teams with pitching on the IL

I have an SP surplus. If interested in one of Dylan Bundy, Joe Ross, or Julio Teheran, for a MiLB upgrade, let me know

To me? For Franco+?

The silly speculation is that if not released, Tulo would have retired and forfeited millions.

wut lol

Optics / posturing yes. I don't have any doubt Stro will be moved for the best package available. They aren't going to take the risk of another JD situation.

Releasing him opened up a 40 man spot. I'm sure Jays tried to move him with no takers. He was done over a year ago. Don't know what else they could have done. Sunk cost.

Of course. But to say the Jays have 'zero leverage' is wrong.

Tanaka getting destroyed. Trade incoming.

Jays have another year of control. They have leverage.

Adam Kloffenstein, RHP Griffin Conine, OF Kendall Williams, RHP Patrick Murphy, RHP Anthony Alford, OF Cal Stevenson, OF Leonardo Jimenez, SS Dasan Brown, OF Kevin Smith, SS Will Robertson, OF Hector Perez, RHP Yennsy Diaz, RHP TJ Zeuch, RHP Reese McGuire, C Alberto Rodriguez, OF Jhon Solarte, OF Javier D'Orazio, C Joey Murray, RHP Ryan Noda, OF/1B Riley Adams, C

BA Jays top 30 update 1. Bo Bichette, SS A broken left hand slowed Bichette's ascent, but he has been back since June and continues to show why he's one of the game's elite prospects. He has excellent bat speed, a knack for finding the barrel and has shown he can stick at shortstop where he has quick feet and good body control. 2. Nate Pearson, RHP Pearson's pure stuff ranks among the best in the minors, with a fastball that sits in the upper-90s and consistently reaches triple-digits, complemented by a swing-and-miss slider in the upper-80s. The caveat with Pearson is his workload—during the first half of the season every other start, the Blue Jays limited him to two innings—but if Pearson proves durable enough to handle a starter's workload, he could anchor the front of a rotation. 3. Jordan Groshans, SS Groshans hasn't played since May 13 due to a foot injury. It's been otherwise all arrows up for Groshans since signing as the 12th overall pick in last year's draft, with Groshans showing an impressive combination of hitting ability and power. 4. Eric Pardinho, RHP A sore right elbow prevented Pardinho from pitching until June 26, but his mix of stuff and feel for pitching remain well beyond his years, with Pardinho already in low Class A Lansing as an 18-year-old. 5. Alek Manoah, RHP After getting a good return on an extra-large, power-armed first-round pick in Pearson, the Blue Jays went even bigger with another hard-throwing first-round pick this year, drafting the 6-foot-7, 275-pound Manoah at No. 11 overall. Manoah pairs a mid-to-upper 90s fastball with a hard slider that has plus potential. 6. Alejandro Kirk, C Kirk is a polarizing prospect among scouts. Some are quickly turned off by his body type, but Kirk has improved defensively and he's a natural hitter with good plate discipline and excellent hand-eye coordination. 7. Gabriel Moreno, C An athletic catcher with great bat-to-ball skills, Moreno started to show a little bit more power last year and has continued that upward trend this year with low Class A Lansing. 8. Sean Reid-Foley, RHP The 2019 season has been a struggle for Reid-Foley, the latest in a career of zigs and zags for a pitcher who has shown promising stuff but has often battled fastball command. Those control troubles have continued to hurt Reid-Foley this season. 9. Miguel Hiraldo, SS Hiraldo earned praise from scouts as an amateur as one of the top hitters in the 2017 international signing class, a reputation he lived up to last year and has continued to show this year in the Rookie-level Appalachian League. 10. Orelvis Martinez, 3B Martinez signed with the Blue Jays last year for $3.51 million, the highest bonus for a 16-year-old international signing in the 2018 class. Making his pro debut in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League, Martinez projects as a strong, physical player whose offensive tools are ahead of his defense, with Martinez likely to play third base.

I had forgotten he existed. Better that way.

With yesterday's start done, Jays can play the waiting game. Doubt Stroman gets moved until much closer to the deadline. Sooner the better in dealing Giles.

No regrets whatsoever

d'arno with another tater, this time off Sale

The straw that stirs the drink.

I like Bob. Some of you guys are real sensitive weaklings, letting minor little things bother you so much.

Yep, my key prospects are there: Wander Franco (SS - TB) Jo Adell (OF - LAA) Luis Urias (2B - SDP) Nico Hoerner (SS - CHC) Vidal Brujan (2B - TB) Julio Rodriguez (OF - SEA) Hunter Greene (SS/SP - CIN)