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Still nothing on why Jimenez was pulled. In these cases no news is often bad news.

It's also a roster management thing (not the Jays management are good at this aspect anyway). In order to bring him up you have to add him to the 40 man. If he needs to go back down to the minors this year (if Happ isn't out for the season) you waste an option year. If he continues to have struggles at the major league level you have a guy who is 23 or 24 and out of options already. Now he's lost value and you handcuffs the team a little. The Jays had this happen with Snider. While he's not exactly an example as he was given a major league contract out of the draft but Jacob Turner isn't even 22 yet but he's used up 2 options and now his third will be this year. Next year if he struggles the Marlins will have to keep him up last year or lose a guy that is 23 and still has a load of talent.

To anyone who has too many picks or prospects and will be dumping. I'm two spots short and have an extra player on my MLB roster. I can work out a deal for a pick you'd be dumping. I really like to be dumped on.

This is what BA had to say on the subject recently. Appel and Oklahoma righthander Jonathan Gray have established themselves as the top two prospects in the 2012 draft. While Appel has less leverage than he did a year ago, his talent still gives him plenty of negotiating power. He should get much more than the $3.8 million he turned down from the Pirates after sliding to the No. 8 overall pick a year ago. Appel’s situation isn’t really analogous to Correa’s. If Correa hadn’t gone No. 1 overall to the Astros, where the assigned pick value was $7.2 million, the perception was that he would have lasted until the Cubs at No. 6 ($3.25 million) or the Padres at No. 7 ($3 million). So it made sense for him to take a discount that still paid him more than he would have gotten otherwise, though I’ve since learned that had Houston taken Byron Buxton, the Twins might have chosen Correa at No. 2. The best-case scenario for the Astros is a repeat of 2012, when they land a player worth of the No. 1 selection but save enough money to do a lot of damage in later rounds. This year, Houston’s assigned pick value is $7,790,400. If the Astros pass on Appel, he very well could be at the top of the Cubs’ draft board at No. 2, where the value is $6,708,400. The Rockies (No. 3, $5,626,400) and Twins (No. 4, $4,544,400) probably would be thrilled to have Appel and willing to move money around to add to their pick value. So he should clear well north of $4.8 million. There are two good reasons that a team won’t take a hard line with Appel. First, he’s advised by the Boras Corp. Clubs legitimately fear that draftees, even college seniors, will walk away from a deal that Scott Boras doesn’t like. Second, Appel could take a hard line with a club. Let’s say the Astros choose him and make him a take-it-or-leave-it $5 million offer. I agree, it would be silly to turn that much money down to re-enter the 2014 draft. But Appel could decide not to sign until right before the July 13 signing deadline of 5 p.m. ET. Houston couldn’t risk spending the $2,790,400 they saved on his bonus to land other players until he was in the fold. (Update: Actually, as @jeremynygaard reminded me on Twitter, the signing deadline doesn’t apply to Appel, making it even easier for him to hold a team’s bonus pool hostage.) If the Astros spent the savings before Appel signed, they’d risk losing their next two first-round selections, including the possible No. 1 overall choice in 2014. Ultimately, clubs give up leverage to draftees because they want to sign the best players available. If Houston rates Appel and Gray evenly, then it makes sense to select the guy who will accept a more team-friendly deal. But if the Astros like Appel more than any other 2013 draft prospect, I think they’ll take him and give him a bonus of $6 million or more.

I just started following Chris Crawford, he doesn't appear to actually get to many games but the site isn't horrible. He just updated a mock that I think looks somewhat realistic. http://mlbdraftinsider.com/2013/05/the-mock-2013-volume-iv/ ick Team Name Pos. School 01 Houston Mark Appel RHP Stanford 02 Chicago-NL Jonathan Gray RHP Oklahoma 03 Colorado Kris Bryant 3B/RF San Diego 04 Minnesota Austin Meadows OF Grayson HS (GA) 05 Cleveland Colin Moran 3B UNC 06 Miami Reese McGuire C Lakewood HS (WA) 07 Boston Clint Frazier OF Loganville HS (GA) 08 Kansas City Sean Manaea LHP Indiana State 09 Pittsburgh Kohl Stewart RHP St. Pius X HS (TX) 10 Toronto Trey Ball LHP New Castle HS (IN) 11 New York-NL Austin Wilson OF Stanford 12 Seattle Hunter Renfroe OF Mississippi State 13 San Diego J.P. Crawford SS Lakewood HS (CA) 14 Pittsburgh Braden Shipley RHP Nevada 15 Arizona Ryan Eades RHP LSU 16 Philadelphia Jon Denney C Yukon HS (OK) 17 Chicago-AL Dominic Smith 1B Serra HS (CA) 18 Los Angeles-NL Nick Ciuffo C Lexington HS (SC) 19 St. Louis Aaron Judge OF Fresno State 20 Detroit Ryne Stanek RHP Arkansas 21 Tampa Bay Marco Gonzales LHP Gonzaga 22 Baltimore Alex Gonzalez RHP Oral Roberts 23 Texas Dustin Peterson IF Gilbert HS (AZ) 24 Oakland Andrew Thurman RHP UC Irvine 25 San Francisco Trevor Williams RHP Arizona State 26 New York-AL Ryan Boldt OF Red Wing HS (MN) 27 Cincinnati Hunter Harvey RHP Bandys HS (NC) 28 St. Louis Cody Reed LHP Northwest Mississippi CC 29 Tampa Bay Tim Anderson SS East Central CC (MS) 30 Texas Billy McKinney OF Plano West HS (TX) 31 Atlanta Travis Demeritte 3B Winder Barrow HS (GA) 32 New York-AL Jonathon Crawford RHP Florida 33 New York-AL Blake Taylor LHP Dana Hills HS (CA) 34 Kansas City Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame 35 Miami Connor Jones RHP Great Bridge HS (VA) 36 Arizona Josh Hart OF Parkview HS (GA) 37 Baltimore DJ Peterson 1B New Mexico 38 Cincinnati Michael Lorenzen OF/RHP Cal-State Fullerton 39 Detroit Phil Bickford RHP Oaks Christian HS (CA)

Replacement options. On the 40 man - Jenkins pitched his first outing of the year yesterday, went 5 innings. I would think that he's a 5 inning option at best. With Redmond hurt he's the only option on the 40. Not on the 40 - Dave Bush, Ramon Ortiz, Justin Germano. One of these probably make the most sense but who gets DFA'd (or Happ to the 60 day DL) for them. Best non trade option - Zach Clark - Outrighted yesterday by Baltimore. Pitched well in Norfolk this year and it's an arm that you can beat the hell out of without much consideration for his health.

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Parade for Maci...

Sens win it...that number 61 guy may have deflected it.

Been watching the hockey...shouldn't Rajai be in at this point

if anyone used to attend the St. Catharines Jays/Stompers games, you'd know Doug. http://butlerniagara.sharingmemories.ca/siteContent/memorial.html?personId=237225&source=memlist

Connacher the conqueror. Tied at 2 with 24 seconds left. Got to say the Habs fans might have some reason to complain tonight. Some questionable icings. I think Price just pulled a groin at the buzzer

I really wish I stuck with my Isles love that I had in the off season. When they matched up against Pittsburgh I jumped off.

Where is Kirksaw when we need him. I think the umps can stop the play

a bunch of people (myself included) immediately responded with "he's dead" or some version of it. I think it's a common response when something like this happens. When the severity of the injury was evident no one said anything tasteless. Lets all calm down with the accusations.

Even for the Trop this is quiet.

Happ is dead

Glad to see you here. I've sent a message to ACE as well.

it'll be up tomorrow. I was watching the Bauer vs. Danks game and missed it.

Sens power play just looks lost.

Is this Ace from the old board. I really and trying to get him and Niko to post here. Two of the most knowledgeable draft posters.

Bauer throwing a no hitter (3 walks) through 5 against Charlotte.

I really don't think Wrigley is a dump like some say. Admittedly I was drinking at 9:30 when I went this time. I think the biggest issue is that it only houses 41K

I'm still looking to move Rollins for an OF. Or Kozma for nothing

the HR/FB rate and the LOB rate are insanely off from his traditional rates. Got to figure there is an improvement coming. Also he's normally averaging over 7 IP per start at this point, he might actually have something left in the second half.