TheHurl

The internet is not too much different than real life. You associate yourself with people that have similar interests. However, sometimes we make a first impression and don't always get to know what a person is really like. I try not to judge a new poster from their initial posts but their follow-up responses (call it a vetrin move). I've gotten past the assumption that every new poster is a troll from the old board and we know who most of the trolls are now (see above for most). On the other hand with internet filtering we are mostly getting items with similar interests anyway, life is boring without differing viewpoints. So I would love to debate an intelligent person who loves AA, unfortunately few of those still exist.

I have some nice Gary Sanchez video from my Erie trip. I agree he looks really good.

fixed! We live to please the troll

Rather than Hanigan how about this... Carlos Perez! Astros are leaving him exposed again to the rule 5 draft, if he gets past the White Sox at number 3 (which I somehow think he won't), should the Jays consider taking him back and playing him as their back up this (sending JPA to the minors). His only redeeming offensive tool is that he's tough to strike out (this is a guy that put up a .673 OPS in the PCL) but he threw out 47% of runners and drew rave reviews about his ability to block during every Oklahoma City game I watched last year. As with all Rule 5 draftees, he would have to stay on the 25 man roster all year or get sent back to his original team (Astros). Let him be Dickey's personal catcher, DFA Thole, send JPA down and pick up a starting catcher. I know Perez makes more sense for teams who are "rebuilding" and have an established catcher but I just think this would make more sense than trying to improve defense through a trade and keeping Thole just because we have Dickey.

if they didn't vote they'd just lose their vote. This makes way more of a statement.

People really have to stop pretending we gave up nothing in the Marlins deal. Yunel and Henderson Alvarez are producing in the majors and out-produced the three returned last year. Even if you think he won't produce in the majors, Marisnick could be traded right now for an upgrade over half the Jays team. DiSclafani put up a 5.0 K/BB ratio over 130 innings last year. Number of pitchers in the Jays org who pitched 100 innings and had a 4.0 K/BB or higher...just one (Stroman 4.78). Then there is Hech and Nicolino.

First time since moving to Minnesota that they have gone three seasons in a row winning less than 70 games. A little pride for them and showing improvement with a big time farm coming in might create a little buzz.

love that info from fivetwentyone about hangover effect for all starters.

he just likes 12 year old boys

Andrew Stoeten says: 11.27.13 @ 6:36 AM EST REPLY Oh, so you mean that messageboard community isn’t a monolith and there are a few actually intelligent people on there? Shocking. Still deserved/deserves ripping entirely. Also: while it certainly looks impressive, I’m not necessarily whole hog endorsing everything on that site. It’s communicated very well (which might be the most impressive thing, given how hard it can be to do with that stuff), and the work looks very solid, but I can’t say that the conclusions necessarily hold up after a quick reading of it. Great food for thought, at the very least, but probably best to leave the crowing at the door, eh? And what do you even mean by offshoot, really?

sounds great all he has to do is carry that .370 BABIP again. Shouldn't be a problem

no offense...but f*** you Stoeten.

Rendon says f*** you...he'll still show everyone.

and someone seemed to think he could speak English

JPA? There is a huge difference between insanity and Autism though. MohYou is Zee. I got to say that no IP address has matched the one that the Dogg first signed up with.

his pitch framing improved last season supposedly. I still believe you see JPA at least 30% of the time.

thanks for your insight

It's all really fascinating stuff to me. It probably just takes having one person you coach return from an injury faster, like what happened with Evans and the Jays after Delabar and the weighted ball stuff and suddenly the jobs offers will come in. In the end I just love hearing old scouts and pitchers dismiss any training that's different. I heard a guy pitch his "elite" program to a parent at a tournament I was working at. He guaranteed that their kid would never develop elbow trouble because he doesn't ever let a pitcher throw from more than 60 feet, just to compete against the long toss supporters. Well the Rainiers aren't on my list of MiLB teams I'll be seeing in the next couple years but I'm ever there I'd love to check out your facility.

Showing your owner's hand will make it much more difficult to tear down and start over. Fans know that Rogers is willing to spend $150M and coming back down to $75M will be a PR nightmare for Rogers (although profits probably won't change). I can see them spending 5 to 10 years in this continual spend but don't contend mode. We can become the Cubs or Mets of the first decade of this Century. Maybe even have a playoff made in that time just like the Cubs and Mets.

I think Hanigan, if healthy, will have some kind of a recovery with the bat this season. But even if he does get close to the Steamer projection .254/.346/.344 the defense one would figure is on it's decline. It also should be noted that Hanigan isn't going to draw anywhere near the same amount of walks in Toronto, of the 44 walks Steamer projects for him, 10 are intentional. In the AL he gets zero intentional walks.

I assume that they will be in on a few Minor league deals in case Beckett is dead. Triple AAA rotation isn't horrible with Lee, Magill, Stripling and Reed set to start there. Fife will probably be the major league swing man. I can see them panicking shortly realizing that they can't trust that great starting staff with such young relievers...and make another League type signing. Despite some huge control issues good teams would love to have Garcia, Withrow, Paco and Kenley at the back of their pen.

Haren would have been a disaster here. He might do okay in LA. He's gone from a GB guy to a pure FB pitcher...yet his HR to FB rates have continued to rise. Tough to be down on anyone who put up that kind of K/BB ratio though. I like him a lot more than last year when everyone wanted to sign him in Toronto.

That's $13M for the Dodgers as they are 2nd year straight in the luxury tax penalty.

of note two more ex Jays draft picks have jumped into Simpson's top 50. Joining Beede (#4), Nola (#24), Weaver (#28) are Prigatano (#155) and last year's 11th rounder Heyman (#180)

Got to say that I haven't paid much attention, especially since I went back to school but I just looked it up and Allan Simpson (PG) has him ranked 103 now and he's dropped out of BA's top 50 too. Don't know if Simpson's ranking are premium or not but looks like he updated two weeks ago RK Player POS YR B-T HT WT School Hometown ST Last Drafted Commitment 1 Carlos Rodon LHP JR L-L 6-3 235 North Carolina State Holly Springs NC Brewers '11 (16) 2 Jeff Hoffman RHP JR R-R 6-4 190 East Carolina Latham NY Never drafted 3 Nick Burdi RHP JR R-R 6-3 220 Louisville Downers Grove IL Twins '11 (24) 4 Trea Turner SS JR R-R 6-1 170 North Carolina State Lake Worth FL Pirates '11 (20) 5 Tyler Beede RHP JR R-R 6-4 215 Vanderbilt Auburn MA Blue Jays '11 (1) 6 Tyler Kolek RHP SR R-R 6-5 230 Shepherd Shepherd TX Texas Christian 7 Brandon Finnegan LHP JR L-L 5-11 185 Texas Christian Fort Worth TX Rangers '11 (45) 8 Michael Gettys OF/RHP SR R-R 6-2 205 Gainesville Gainesville GA Georgia 9 Alex Jackson C/OF SR R-R 6-2 215 Rancho Bernardo Escondido CA Oregon 10 Michael Cederoth RHP JR R-R 6-6 210 San Diego State Spring Valley CA Diamondbacks '11 (41) 11 Nicholas Gordon SS/RHP SR L-R 6-2 170 Olympia Windermere FL Florida State 12 Max Pentecost C JR R-R 6-2 190 Kennesaw State Winder GA Rangers '11 (7) 13 Kodi Medeiros LHP SR L-L 6-0 180 Waiakea Hilo HI Pepperdine 14 Derek Fisher OF JR L-R 6-3 210 Virginia Rexmont PA Rangers '11 (6) 15 Michael Conforto OF JR L-R 6-2 215 Oregon State Redmond WA Never drafted 16 Grant Holmes RHP SR L-R 6-2 210 Conway Conway SC Florida 17 Sean Newcomb LHP JR R-L 6-5 245 Hartford Middleboro MA Never drafted 18 Kyle Schwarber C/OF JR L-R 6-0 230 Indiana Middletown OH Never drafted 19 Sean Reid-Foley RHP SR R-R 6-3 210 Sandalwood Jacksonville FL Florida State 20 Luis Ortiz RHP SR R-R 6-3 220 Sanger Sanger CA Fresno State 21 Bradley Zimmer OF JR L-R 6-5 205 San Francisco San Diego CA Cubs '11 (23) 22 Jacob Gatewood SS SR R-R 6-5 190 Clovis Clovis CA Southern California 23 Touki Toussaint RHP SR R-R 6-2 195 Coral Springs Charter Coral Springs FL Miami 24 Aaron Nola RHP JR R-R 6-2 185 Louisiana State Baton Rouge LA Blue Jays '11 (22) 25 Braxton Davidson 1B/OF SR L-L 6-3 215 T.C. Roberson Arden NC North Carolina 26 Michael Chavis 3B SR R-R 6-0 185 Sprayberry Marietta GA Clemson 27 Matt Chapman 3B/SS JR R-R 6-2 215 Cal State Fullerton Trabuco Canyon CA Never drafted 28 Luke Weaver RHP JR R-R 6-2 170 Florida State DeLand FL Blue Jays '11 (19) 29 Cobi Johnson RHP SR R-R 6-4 180 J.W. Mitchell New Port Richey FL Florida State 30 Kyle Freeland LHP JR L-L 6-4 190 Evansville Denver CO Phillies '11 (35) 31 Dylan Cease RHP SR R-R 6-2 180 Milton Milton GA Vanderbilt 32 Chris Ellis RHP JR L-R 6-5 205 Mississippi Birmingham AL Dodgers '11 (50) 33 Erick Fedde RHP JR R-R 6-4 170 Nevada-Las Vegas Las Vegas NV Padres '11 (24) 34 Scott Blewett RHP SR R-R 6-6 210 Baker Baldwinsville NY St. John's 35 Alex Verdugo LHP/OF SR L-L 6-1 190 Sahuaro Tucson AZ Arizona State 36 Jace Fry LHP JR L-L 6-0 195 Oregon State Beaverton OR Athletics '11 (9) 37 Jack Flaherty 3B SR R-R 6-4 210 Harvard-Westlake Burbank CA North Carolina 38 Daniel Mengden C/RHP JR R-R 6-1 215 Texas A&M Houston TX Never drafted 39 Greg Deichmann SS SR L-R 6-2 185 Brother Martin Metairie LA Louisiana State 40 Taylor Sparks 3B JR R-R 6-4 220 UC Irvine Bellflower CA Indians '11 (24) 41 Brian Anderson OF/3B JR R-R 6-3 185 Arkansas Edmond OK Twins '11 (20) 42 Brady Aiken LHP SR L-L 6-3 210 Cathedral Catholic Jamul CA UCLA 43 Alex Blandino 3B/SS JR L-R 6-0 190 Stanford Mountain View CA Athletics '11 (38) 44 Chad Sobotka RHP JR R-R 6-6 195 USC Upstate Sarasota FL Never drafted 45 Dylan Davis OF/RHP JR R-R 6-0 215 Oregon State Redmond WA Never drafted 46 Parker French RHP JR L-R 6-2 210 Texas Dripping Springs TX Never drafted 47 Cameron Varga RHP/SS SR R-R 6-3 205 Cincinnati Christian Academy West Chester OH North Carolina 48 Marcus Wilson OF SR R-R 6-3 175 J Serra Los Angeles CA Arizona State 49 Matt Imhof LHP JR L-L 6-5 230 Cal Poly Fremont CA Never drafted 50 Justus Sheffield LHP SR L-L 6-2 195 Tullahoma Tullahoma TN Vanderbilt 51 Mac Marshall LHP SR R-L 6-2 180 Parkview Lilburn GA Louisiana State 52 Karsten Whitson RHP JR R-R 6-4 220 Florida Chipley FL Nationals '13 (37) 53 Ti'quan Forbes SS/RHP SR R-R 6-4 170 Columbia Columbia MS Mississippi 54 Casey Gillaspie 1B/OF JR B-L 6-4 230 Wichita State Omaha NE Never drafted 55 Zack Shannon RHP SR R-R 6-3 220 Anderson Cincinnati OH Ohio State 56 Aramis Garcia C JR R-R 6-2 200 Florida International Pembroke Pines FL Cardinals '11 (20) 57 Dillon Peters LHP JR L-L 5-11 200 Texas Fishers IN Indians '11 (20) 58 Sam Coonrod RHP/OF JR R-R 6-2 205 Southern Illinois Carrolton IL Never drafted 59 Brandon Downes OF JR R-R 6-3 200 Virginia South Plainfield NJ Red Sox '11 (43) 60 Robbie Dickey RHP SO R-R 6-3 205 Blinn (Texas) Austin TX Never drafted Texas State 61 Derek Hill OF SR R-R 6-2 180 Elk Grove Sacramento CA Oregon 62 Kevin Cron 1B JR R-R 6-5 260 Texas Christian Phoenix AZ Mariners '11 (3) 63 Foster Griffin LHP SR R-L 6-5 190 First Academy Orlando FL Mississippi 64 Keith Weisenberg RHP SR R-R 6-4 185 Osceola Seminole FL Stanford 65 Josh Dezse RHP/1B JR R-R 6-5 225 Ohio State Powell OH Yankees '10 (28) 66 James Norwood RHP JR R-R 6-2 200 St. Louis New York NY Never drafted 67 Jake Cosart RHP/OF FR R-R 6-2 210 Seminole State (Fla.) League City TX Never drafted 68 Joey Pankake SS JR R-R 6-1 200 South Carolina Easley SC Rangers '11 (42) 69 Grayson Greiner C JR R-R 6-5 220 South Carolina Lexington SC Never drafted 70 Zech Lemond RHP JR R-R 6-4 195 Rice Houston TX Pirates '11 (50) 71 Forrest Wall SS SR L-R 6-0 180 Orangewood Christian Winter Park FL North Carolina 72 A.J. Vanegas RHP SR R-R 6-3 215 Stanford Alameda CA Athletics '13 (19) 73 A.J. Reed LHP/1B JR L-L 6-2 255 Kentucky Terre Haute IN Mets '11 (25) 74 Jakson Reetz C/RHP SR R-R 6-1 195 Norris Hickman NE Nebraska 75 J.D. Davis 1B/RHP JR R-R 6-3 215 Cal State Fullerton Elk Grove CA Rays '11 (5) 76 John Curtiss RHP SO R-R 6-4 200 Texas Southlake TX Rockies '11 (30) 77 Mike Papi OF/1B JR L-R 6-3 210 Virginia Tunkhannock PA Angels '11 (30) 78 Jon Littell OF SR R-R 6-4 190 Stillwater Stillwater OK Oklahoma State 79 Spencer Turnbull RHP JR R-R 6-3 220 Alabama Madison AL Never drafted 80 Justin Smith OF SR R-R 6-2 200 Bartram Trail St. John's FL Miami 81 Ashton Perritt OF/RHP JR R-R 6-4 195 Liberty Whiteland IN Never drafted 82 Patrick Weigel RHP SO R-R 6-6 210 Oxnard (Calif.) Camarillo CA Never drafted Houston 83 Greg Allen OF JR B-R 6-0 170 San Diego State Chula Vista CA Never drafted 84 Nick Howard 3B/RHP JR R-R 6-3 215 Virginia Olney MD Never drafted 85 Michael Kopech RHP SR R-R 6-4 195 Mt. Pleasant Mt. Pleasant TX Arizona 86 Jake Reed RHP JR R-R 6-2 190 Oregon La Mesa CA White Sox '11 (40) 87 Milton Ramos SS SR R-R 6-0 150 Florida Christian Hialeah Gardens FL Florida Atlantic 88 Sean Bouchard 3B SR R-R 6-3 190 Cathedral Catholic San Diego CA UCLA 89 Kel Johnson OF SR R-R 6-4 215 (home schooled) Palmetto GA Georgia Tech 90 Ben Smith LHP JR L-L 6-3 195 Coastal Carolina Wichita Falls TX Never drafted 91 Austin Byler 3B JR L-R 6-3 225 Nevada Peoria AZ Never drafted 92 Stone Garrett OF SR R-R 6-2 200 George Ranch Sugar Land TX Rice 93 Mason McCullough RHP JR R-R 6-4 225 North Carolina Shelby NC Never drafted 94 Keaton McKinney RHP/1B SR R-R 6-5 220 Ankeny Ankeny IA Arkansas 95 Jordan Foley RHP JR R-R 6-3 215 Central Michigan The Colony TX Yankees '11 (26) 96 Jordan Luplow OF JR R-R 6-1 190 Fresno State Clovis CA Never drafted 97 Shane Benes SS SR R-R 6-3 200 Westminster Christian St. Louis MO Missouri 98 Alex Destino LHP SR L-L 6-3 210 North Buncombe Weaverville NC South Carolina 99 Jorge Perez RHP JR R-R 6-2 205 Grand Canyon (Ariz.) Downey CA Never drafted 100 David Peterson LHP SR L-L 6-6 220 Regis Jesuit Denver CO Oregon 101 Trenton Kemp OF SR R-R 6-2 185 Buchanan Clovis CA Fresno State 102 Daniel Gossett RHP JR R-R 6-1 185 Clemson Lyman SC Red Sox '11 (16) 103 Gareth Morgan OF SR R-R 6-4 210 North Toronto Collegiate Toronto ON