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If only the team had seen a similar aged SS follow a similar pattern previously

yeah I'm not saying what is worth it or not (making the playoffs is huge for this team). But fans only seem to care about "superstars" getting dealt. There are a lot of really good depth pieces that the Jays have moved which would have this team in great shape right now.

Wish we could get a shared BA subscription. I mean now that people are so mobile they can't be tracking as closely as they used to

Who could have saw Tulo getting hurt? Matt Boyd and Daniel Norris would have been our 4th and 5th best starters in 2017 and Boyd our second best pitcher this year.

I love the over-dramatic response by this guy though. "risk their development" Romano and Harris are 25 and 24 respectively.

A little over-dramatic but he certainly didn't put resources into the draft. 2003 was good though

Matt Tracy is the same age as Tanaka and out-pitched him. New star in the making

I don't totally disagree but there is a difference. Rooker was 20.5 when he took his first college AB and improved every year. Beer put up the best numbers in College as a 19 year old that skipped his senior season of high school. Beer got drafted where he did based on those numbers...more so than his sophomore and junior numbers. If Beer improved every year he was in College, it would not have mattered if he was actually an unathletic butcher (which I don't believe he is...I mean the guy was a World class swimmer at 16. I don't know if I've ever seen an unathletic swimmer). He would have been number 1. He's shown to be a guy that can hit unreal for weeks at a time, and then disappear for months. Screams to be a guy that is going to benefit from a world class organization that will get his head together. It would not surprise me if he's the best hitter in this draft still. I of course also professed my love of Conine and Eierman at points in this thread so I've been proven to be dumm

You do realize that I neither create the calendars nor the Game Logs. Cause if I had it my way I would just obliterate June all together, haven't liked it since I was done High School. I apologize for using BA game logs and I have informed them that they missed June 30th on Bobo. I am actually one of the lower people on Bichette on this board, but using any week to judge a baseball player is just wrong...and when it's an Olerud reference it entertains the f*** out of me.

Not instructing to not take walks but telling him to be aggressive...but if he is making solid contact with pitches inside the zone it does not give him an opportunity to walk. I know you like to talk 90's players so think Kirby Puckett, he seldom got deep in counts because he made such solid contact when he did swing. Even guys like Gwynn, Mattingly, Lansford...when they were on they would go weeks without taking a walk.

Minor league game logs are pretty easy to get these days

he walked just 6 times in June and none in July. He also struck out just 8 times in June. Essentially he is swinging his bat too well to draw walks. Might even be an approach they are asking of him. He also hasn't had back to back 0 for nights since May 23rd. I think your tongue-in-cheek comments are pretty much closer to head-in-ass.

Also was hitting .220/.320/.430 at the time of the deadline as the third highest paid player in baseball. Essentially those with revisionist history are saying it was a missed opportunity but the only real opportunity to trade him for good value was after an 86-76 2003 season after a Doc and Wells breakout and a promise by Ted Rogers that there would be a payroll increase coming. Trading him at that time would be tough for anyone to justify. The Jays didn't offer Delgado arbitration after 2004 out of "fear" of overpaying him in order to secure some draft picks (which Riccardi didn't value properly). They also insulted him by discussing a 2 year contract extension during the season. JPR needed a PR person and i think he would have had a better rep here.

Payroll went down just once under AA. 2010 (his first year) it was $78M. 2011 it was $70M...then grew by at least $10M every year after. 2012 confused me as I couldn't figure out how they increased payroll but that was the year that they added like $10M of relievers.

JPR had this "reckless spender rep". He inherited a team with a $76M payroll and in his "reckless spending" he increased payroll to a max of $96M in 2008. His last year with the Jays payroll was $80M. AA's low payroll was $70M in 2011 which his doubled by 2014. JPR may have lacked tact, but I feel his tenure is almost misunderstood. Overshadowed by the Romero/Tulo and Delgado situations.

Maybe it's because I'm on a VIA train but Leaf fans appear to be shutting down the internet. Leafs Cap Friendly won't load. NHL betting futures sites wouldn't either. Twitter...same thing. It's been a long time since BJMB is the best loading site for me

What D-man does that actually get you? They asked for way more for OEL. Dubas is the best thing the Leafs have going for them...he's got to stick to his plan. I honestly don't know the answer to this...what is the Leafs cap situation in 2 years? Is this like the Blackhawks where they have to re-shuffle the 3rd and 4th line every time time they are due a raise?

and it's official the only way JT ever plays in a Stanley Cup final is if Justin Timberlake sings the National Anthem.

Seems to make sense. We do have to make sure that our 20 shortstops are all playing SS everyday though.

I'll post the new to the list guys. It's only been a month since their last update. Next month they will include 2018 draftees. 71 Jonathan Loaisiga Yankees RHP Notes: Fastball: 70. | Curveball: 60. | Changeup: 50. | Control: 50. Scouting Report: Just two years ago, Loaisiga was out of baseball after being released by the Giants. Signed by the Yankees out of a tryout camp, he then was shut down for Tommy John surgery. He returned in 2017 to dominate the short-season New York-Penn League. Nothing on that resume prepared anyone for Loaisiga’s rocket-boosted rise to the Yankees this year. Despite coming into the season with just 2.1 innings of full-season experience, Loaisiga jumped straight to the high Class A Florida State League, then the Double-A Eastern League and then to the Yankees rotation. His near top-of-the-scale stuff (and the fact he was already on the 40-man roster) allowed him to make such a quick jump. His 94-98 mph fastball is a plus-plus pitch that he locates well. His 12-to-6 hard mid-80s curveball gives him a second plus pitch and he mixes in a sinking, hard 87-88 mph changeup is a useful average offering. Loaisiga has had a lengthy injury history, but if he can stay healthy, he has mid-rotation stuff. 84 Will Smith Dodgers Notes: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Speed: 50 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 55 Scouting Report: The Dodgers have a lengthy history of preferring catchers who combine receiving skills with the athleticism to also handle a spot in the infield. Russ Martin led the way, and Austin Barnes continued down that path. Now Smith has impressed as both a plus defender behind the plate with soft hands and an above-average arm and a capable second and third baseman who earns above-average defensive grades at the hot corner. Smith has retooled his swing as a pro to generate more loft and power. It’s resulted in lower batting average, but his ability to tap into average to above-average productive power makes it a fair trade. 85 Gavin Lux Dodgers SS Notes: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Speed: 60 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 55 Scouting Report: After struggling in the Midwest League, especially early in 2017, Lux worked to continue to fill out and get stronger in his second full pro seasons. That’s paid off in 2018 as he’s shown better power while retaining his ability to make contact and draw walks. Lux looks to be an above-average hitter with above-average power. Lux’s defense at shortstop is still a work in progress, largely because of his struggles with throwing accuracy. He had 17 errors at the season’s midpoint. Lux has played both second base and shortstop this season. Scouts believe he can stick at shortstop, although a team looking for a plus defender at shortstop will slide him to second. 86 Jose Suarez Angels LHP Notes: Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 50 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 55 Scouting Report: Suarez is undersized and portly but has an advanced feel for pitching, and he keeps throwing harder. Suarez's fastball velocity has steadily ticked up from 88-92 in 2016 to 89-93 mph in 2017 to 90-94 this season, and he excels at busting his fastball in on rigthhanders for an uncomfortable at-bat. His changeup is a swing-and-miss pitch that he sells with identical arm speed, drawing foolish swings over the top. He's developing a curveball as a quality third pitch, landing it to his armside well but still learning to put it on the back foot of righthanded hitters. Suarez works with an exceptionally quick pace, commanding the tempo and keeping hitters on the defensive. With his constantly improving stuff, Suarez's strikeouts have increased from 5.7 batters per nine innings in 2015 to 10.7 in 2016 to 11.8 in 2017 to 12.5 in 2018. Suarez doesn't make many mistakes, having allowed only 10 homers in 251.1 minor league innings. He has above-average pitchability and an easy, repeatable high-three quarters delivery with good direction to the plate, allowing him to maintain his velocity and control. Suarez is thick and will have to watch his conditioning, but his continued upward trend gives him a chance to be a mid-rotation starter. 87 Logan Allen Padres LHP Notes: Fastball: 55 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 50 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 50 Scouting Report: At his best, Allen sits 92-94 mph with his fastball and shows off a potential plus changeup and above-average curveball. At other times he's 89-91 mph with just average secondaries. He shows the poise and pitchability to succeed even when his stuff isn't at his best. Allen is aggressive with his fastball and establishes it early in games. He complements it with a “Vulcan” grip changeup he holds between his middle and ring finger that dives as it approaches the plate for a swing-and-miss offering. Allen still is trying to find a consistent release point on his hard, slurvy curveball, but he shows flashes of snapping it off. He's begun showing an average slider he can land for strikes as well. Allen throws all his pitches for strikes but can get wild in the zone. The Padres have smoothed out his delivery, making it less herky-jerky, and his command and pitch efficiency have improved as a result. Allen looks like a mid-rotation starter at his best, but needs to continue to iron out his command and gain consistency of his stuff. 90 Josh Naylor Padres 1B Notes: Hit: 55 | Power: 60 | Speed: 40 | Fielding: 45 | Arm: 55 The Marlins made Naylor the highest-drafted Canadian position player ever when they selected him 12th overall in 2015 and signed him for $2.2 million. One year later the Padres acquired him in the five-player trade that sent Andrew Cashner to Miami. Naylor is stocky with a protruding belly, closer to 260 pounds than his listed 225. Because the Padres have signed Eric Hosmer to a long-term deal, they have tried Naylor in left field this year. Most scouts are skeptical that he can handle left field, but he’s a fringe-average first baseman, which is his true position. Like any first baseman, Naylor has to hit and he’s down so. He’s shown the ability to recognize balls out of the pitcher’s hand, waiting to find a pitch he can drive. With bat speed and pitch recognition, Naylor has the ability to be an above-average hitter with plus power. 91 kevin_smith.png Kevin Smith Blue Jays SS Notes: Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Speed: 45 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 55 Scouting Report: In three seasons as Maryland’s shortstop, Smith showed excellent defense, bat speed and power potential, but his struggles to make contact meant he never hit for average in college, which explains why he slid to the fourth round in the 2017 draft. Since then, Smith has eliminated a loop in his swing. With a shortened, quicker stroke that helps him better catch up to velocity, Smith has shown both improved contact skills and even better power. At shortstop, Smith stands out for his reliability more than flashy range, but he’s sure-handed and has an above-average arm that should allow him to stay at the position. He has a chance to be an everyday shortstop with above-average to plus power. 92 ronaldo_hernandez.jpg Ronaldo Hernandez Rays C Notes: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Speed: 40 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 70 Scouting Report: A former infielder who played on Colombia's 18U World Cup team as a 15-year-old in 2013, Hernandez signed for $225,000 and moved behind the plate with the Rays. He emerged as a legitimate dual-threat receiver in 2017 at Rookie-level Princeton after battling a groin injury for two years in the Dominican Summer League. This year has just added to the already-lofty expectations that surrounded him coming into the season as he’s proven to be one of the better hitters in the Midwest League. Scouts are surprised to discover Hernandez's limited experience behind the dish based on his ability. He has plus-plus arm strength. Hernandez does a solid job blocking balls in the dirt. Hernandez is on an upward trajectory that has seen him emerge as one of the organization's premier prospects. 94 nick_neidert.jpg Nick Neidert Marlins RHP Notes: Fastball: 50. | Changeup: 60. | Slider: 50. | Control: 60. Scouting Report: The Mariners' first selection in 2015, Neidert claimed California League pitcher of the year honors in 2017 after going 10-3, 2.76 at high Class A Modesto. The Marlins acquired Neidert, shortstop Chris Torres and righthander Robert Dugger after the 2017 season in the deal that sent Dee Gordon and international bonus pool money to Seattle. Neidert's aggressive approach allows him to excel. He goes right at hitters, has advanced feel for his secondary pitches and shows good poise on the mound. He effectively sequences his three pitches and throws strikes. Neidert's fastball sits 90-93 mph but plays up with carry through the zone due to a late hop in his delivery. Both of his secondary offerings--an average low-80s slider and future plus changeup at 78-81 mph with deception and fade--play up because of how well he commands them. He repeats his high three-quarters delivery, keeping hitters off balance. Neidert has a high aptitude for his craft with the ability to quickly make adjustments. Some observers don't see a true out pitch in Nediert's arsenal, but he succeeds because of his competitive nature and advanced pitchabilty. He projects as a No. 4 starter.

I would love for Grant to write strictly about the Red Sox it would be the most entertaining site on the net. In this case he's right though...the Red Sox system is pretty bad right now

From a BA article about Red Sox system from last week. BIGGEST LEAP FORWARD While shortstop Santiago Espinal showed good bat-to-ball skills at low Class A Greenville in 2017, he showed little pop. But improved fluidity in his hands this year along with better pitch selection and recognition of counts in which he can drive the ball have allowed him to perform at a different level in the first half of 2018 for high Class A Salem. Through 59 games, Espinal hit .315/.367/.491 line with more home runs (seven) and nearly as many extra-base hits (24) as he had all last year. While his arm looks like it will play best at second base, he also looks competent on the left side of the infield, with the potential to emerge as a doubles hitter who can hit for average with good on-base skills. "He’s impacting the ball better than he has in the past. I think he’s become an even more confident defender,” farm director Ben Crockett said. "It’s very real improvement.”

Did you play for Coach Brabant? I have a story for offline if yes

College version of Billy Buckner really