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Safe to say Estrada won't be back next year?

 

Depends on the contract. Maybe he becomes Saunders 2.0. Signs a large contract, gets DFA'd and then comes back on a minor league deal.

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6 straight fastballs after the Gibby mound visit

 

It definitely appears hitters are sitting on his soft stuff as evident by so many late fouls on his fastball. It's crazy how coming into today 19 of his seasons 39 walks came in his last 4 starts. Really night and day with the command

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Top of the first.....we're buyers.

Bottom of the first.....we're sellers.

 

Welcome to the 2017 season.

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Top of the first.....we're buyers.

Bottom of the first.....we're sellers.

 

Welcome to the 2017 season.

 

...going to be sellers and maybe buy a piece that is controllable for 3-4 yrs

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Depends on the contract. Maybe he becomes Saunders 2.0. Signs a large contract, gets DFA'd and then comes back on a minor league deal.

 

Doubtful he gets anything for more than 4 or 5 million plus incentives.

 

It's really unfortunate that all our trade assets have got hurt or s*** the bed this year. We aren't going to get anything back for Liriano and Estrada. And since Joe Smith has been hurt a month we will get a nothing prospect for him despite how well hes pitched.

 

This really is the worst season ever.

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What can we even realistically sell?

 

Happ and Donaldson but apparently they refuse to trade them.

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Yeah Estrada, Liriano and Bautista is getting you nothing of value if they continue to perform like this. Maybe you get someone to eat half their remaining contract for the season but that's about it.

 

If Smith comes back healthy I think he should get something decent.

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Yeah Estrada, Liriano and Bautista is getting you nothing of value if they continue to perform like this. Maybe you get someone to eat half their remaining contract for the season but that's about it.

 

We should be paying as much as possible to maximise the return, but realistically it's still not going to help much.

 

If Smith comes back healthy I think he should get something decent.

 

Depends what you mean by decent. We're not getting a top 100 prospect for a rental reliever coming back from injury.

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You're going to need a lot of beer for this game. Good call.

 

Hopefully won't be needed but watching the Jays this season more might be required

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Doubtful he gets anything for more than 4 or 5 million plus incentives.

 

It's really unfortunate that all our trade assets have got hurt or s*** the bed this year. We aren't going to get anything back for Liriano and Estrada. And since Joe Smith has been hurt a month we will get a nothing prospect for him despite how well hes pitched.

 

This really is the worst season ever.

 

Don't sell the mid 90's short. They were brutal after the World Series high.

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