GDT: Toronto Blue Jays @ New York Yankees (Game 3 of 4 from Yankee Stadium)

[gruber92]

Drew sporting that .260 OBP.

 

Correction..

 

.242 OBP

[bluebird]

Can someone tell me if there is any chance goins or gose become a great hitter?

[gruber92]

Buck thinks Navarro would have scored if that stayed in the park.

 

Holy s***.

[MrMariusz]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

[burlingtonbandit]

That despite 100 fewer PA's, Goins still has more value this year.

 

That calls for a big LOL.

 

How many seasons has Goins had of at least 3 WAR?

[gruber92]

Can someone tell me if there is any chance goins or gose become a great hitter?

 

Great hitter?

 

NO. Both defensive specialists.

[TheHurl]

I don't think anyone would care if Reyes or Navarro were shipped off in the offseason. I think fans have realized in the last 20 years that they don't care who is on the team as long as they win.

 

that's been proven to be wrong for about 30 years now. The biggest factor in attendance is off-season ticket sales. Winning (presumably walk up sales) is as much of a factor as giveaways and weather.

[burlingtonbandit]

Great hitter?

 

NO. Both defensive specialists.

 

Difference is Gose has baserunning value and can take a walk. Goins can't do either.

[bluebird]

Great hitter?

 

NO. Both defensive specialists.

ya i love there defense but wonder if the bats have any chance of coming around with hard work

[gruber92]

How many seasons has Goins had of at least 3 WAR?

 

What have you done for me lately? Drew will be 32 next season and is in an obvious decline. I'll spend my money on Goins thanks.

[burlingtonbandit]

that's been proven to be wrong for about 30 years now. The biggest factor in attendance is off-season ticket sales. Winning (presumably walk up sales) is as much of a factor as giveaways and weather.

 

Oh I know what you mean but Im saying if you trade away Reyes for nothing fans I think will understand. Sign Russel Martin and dump Navarro and fans will be excited again. Especially if you sign a 2B and LF as well.

[TheHurl]

Can someone tell me if there is any chance goins or gose become a great hitter?

 

I don't even think Goins can become a good hitter. Gose has to prove to be coachable. Guys his age, that have had a similar skillset, similar K-Rates have become really good hitters or at least have had really good hitting seasons. He has to work huge on his approach but it's going on 4 years of saying that so I'm not sure it'll happen.

[MrMariusz]

Need to get a few more insurance runs.

Whitley sucks.

[burlingtonbandit]

What have you done for me lately? Drew will be 32 next season and is in an obvious decline. I'll spend my money on Goins thanks.

 

That actually makes your argument worse. Like I said Drew had over 3 WAR last season. Goins will be 27 next year and has been much worse than Drew THIS SEASON with the bat. Also has been over age for every level in the Minors while continuing to suck with the bat.

[bluebird]

I don't even think Goins can become a good hitter. Gose has to prove to be coachable. Guys his age, that have had a similar skillset, similar K-Rates have become really good hitters or at least have had really good hitting seasons. He has to work huge on his approach but it's going on 4 years of saying that so I'm not sure it'll happen.

good points ,lets just pray the bats come around and we have all star players

[burlingtonbandit]

Reyes seems to pop out every third AB

[MrMariusz]

Every f***ing single person at bat in the inning showed good patience or good eye for the ball.

 

Except that one guy.

I dont care how well he could hit, he has the baseball IQ of a clown, get him off of this team.

So frustrating.

[EdwinsParrot]

reyes the new mr pop up

[gruber92]

That actually makes your argument worse. Like I said Drew had over 3 WAR last season. Goins will be 27 next year and has been much worse than Drew THIS SEASON with the bat. Also has been over age for every level in the Minors while continuing to suck with the bat.

 

Value is value, doesn't matter where it comes from. Why you so focused on Goins' bat?

[TheHurl]

Oh I know what you mean but Im saying if you trade away Reyes for nothing fans I think will understand. Sign Russel Martin and dump Navarro and fans will be excited again. Especially if you sign a 2B and LF as well.

 

I think for Toronto specifically it depends on the local, National and even U.S. media spin on it. After "the trade" one of the biggest season ticket sales day was after it became a big deal that we were the "Vegas" favourite. Meanwhile we were the Vegas favourite likely mostly in part to casual fans all blowing their load over that trade. The Jays would probably be much better off sales wise if they turned Sportsnet into a YES type hype machine. I hope it never happens but it's probably best for sales.

[bluebird]

I use to have the same aproach as reyes at the plate when i played little league,swing at every thing

[gruber92]

That actually makes your argument worse. Like I said Drew had over 3 WAR last season. Goins will be 27 next year and has been much worse than Drew THIS SEASON with the bat. Also has been over age for every level in the Minors while continuing to suck with the bat.

 

And no it doesn't make my argument worse, as Goins still has a bit of time to improve his hitting while Drew is done.

[EdwinsParrot]

wuut, that actually happened

[TheHurl]

Value is value, doesn't matter where it comes from. Why you so focused on Goins' bat?

 

because Goins bat will never ever be good enough to make his defensive value matter. Goins future roll is injury replacement...until he's out of options than it's 25th man.

[gruber92]

How many seasons has Goins had of at least 3 WAR?

 

Ask me again in five years, that will be a fair question then.

[MrMariusz]

Get the f*** out, Reyes.

Routine plays, god damn it.

[burlingtonbandit]

And no it doesn't make my argument worse, as Goins still has a bit of time to improve his hitting while Drew is done.

 

Hes going to be f***ing 27 years old. No chance his bat improves to where he can even be a 2 WAR 2B...

[EdwinsParrot]

f***in ichiro and his bloop hits

[Angrioter]

One more Strow

[MrMariusz]

Stroman gets out of it, nice.