Is anyone feeling better about the team then they did a week ago?

[mitchf]

I'll probably be at the school till around 7 tomorrow and have tickets to the leafs game for Tuesday (genuinely don't want to go). Unfortunate.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

East, I have to say I feel bad about telling you to get off your high horse. I mean, I think you were on one, but that's probably the most unpleasant thing I've said to you in like 10 years on this forum. Wanna hug it out?

 

You know that I can't turn down a good old fashioned bro hug.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

What, no circle jerk?

 

Circle jerk is reserved for Saturday after the Yankees game.

 

We can arrange something at an all-ages establishment if you want to join in. We don't discriminate!

[eastcoastjaysfan]

A circle jerk between two people isn't a circle jerk, it's two guys jacking it together.

 

It's only gay if you make eye contact.

[GD]

Good luck with that. I'd be happy if they played a meaningful game in September once...

 

There's a difference between wants and expectations, lol.

 

A circle jerk between two people isn't a circle jerk, it's two guys jacking it together.

 

I was assuming King was invited, as your #1 fan boy.

 

That thread still f***ing haunts me. GOD.

[GD]

Circle jerk is reserved for Saturday after the Yankees game.

 

We can arrange something at an all-ages establishment if you want to join in. We don't discriminate!

 

Aww thanks! You know I'll be there.

 

It's only gay if you make eye contact.

 

It's not gay if it's a three way.

 

Also, if you say no homo, you're pretty much golden.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Basically how I'm visualizing this thread:

 

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[eastcoastjaysfan]

Except replace Lady Gaga with Ryan Goins

[vic city]

No way. Enjoy the game my way or f*** off.

 

LOL well played sir.

 

eastcoastjaysfan is going a little overboard tho. BTS at least contributes to decent conversation. He's just a complicated individual!

[G-Snarls]

BTS at least contributes to decent conversation. He's just a complicated individual!

 

Well he backs up his opinion and explains it. You can understand his points even if you disagree.

[GD]

I have many layers.

 

You're sophisticated. Chicks dig it. If you ever closed your fancy nerd spreadsheets and left your mom's basement you'd be pimpin'.

[Caper]

I have many layers.

 

But the grossest layer is that thick layer of cum from all your fan boys.

[TheHurl]

Honestly if the scenario right now was the Rays vs. Jays, I'm probably cheering for the Rays. Against any other team I'm probably cheering for the Jays cause I know just contending is keeping AA around anyway.

 

What I don't understand is that for the past year and a half (or longer) BTS and I have been the most critical two about the moves made, specifically pointing out that they aren't made for long term success. But then most think it's insane that we won't support every aspect of this team. I realize what a playoff run would do for this team financially and keeping spending up into the upper half of the league, but that's not going to change my views about how to run a team. I know you can't start a long time playoff run without the first one...but I really struggle to see this org making that kind of run.

[Angrioter]

Basically how I'm visualizing this thread:

 

http://images.rapgenius.com/5lt7bem5vyner5sy1ofmzzg3g.640x356x1.png

 

Sexily gay?

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Honestly if the scenario right now was the Rays vs. Jays, I'm probably cheering for the Rays. Against any other team I'm probably cheering for the Jays cause I know just contending is keeping AA around anyway.

 

What I don't understand is that for the past year and a half (or longer) BTS and I have been the most critical two about the moves made, specifically pointing out that they aren't made for long term success. But then most think it's insane that we won't support every aspect of this team. I realize what a playoff run would do for this team financially and keeping spending up into the upper half of the league, but that's not going to change my views about how to run a team. I know you can't start a long time playoff run without the first one...but I really struggle to see this org making that kind of run.

 

Sad

[eastcoastjaysfan]

I got sunburnt like a bitch today out on the beach. Don't do it

 

Do you have a tan line from your water wings?

[TheHurl]

Saw online that you can get tickets almost directly behind the backstop for like 30-40 bucks.

 

What a joke of a fanbase.

 

we're all in Toronto.

[Caper]

But then most think it's insane that we won't support every aspect of this team.

 

Forgetting about the rest of the post.... this part is simply isn't true. I know you believe this to be true... but it is not at all true.... and there in lies your disconnect.

[ElNik2013]

I've always talked about wanting long tern success. I honestly in my heart believe that we can't have that with AA and Beeston in the fold. How is that any different than someone wanting a better 2B or a better pitcher for their team. In my opinion the GM is the most important person to a baseball teams success...so I want a better GM in place. A one year fluke playoff run makes that an impossibility. It's odd cause I'm a very loyal guy, just not with my sports teams.

 

 

 

I disagree, I think it's ownership, president and then the GM. Bill DeWitt wouldn't have allowed the Marlins trade. That's where it starts, a good owner sets a vision for his franchise and doesn't deviate from it because of some injury and performance setbacks. The president and GM know what the vision is and execute it to the best of their abilities.

 

Anyway, just my thoughts.

[TheHurl]

Sad

 

 

I choose not to stay in an equal relationship. I have needs and expectations. The Jays F.O. didn't fulfill them. Rather than cheat I chose to dump the team, but I keep them close in case they ever change.

[mitchf]

Honestly if the scenario right now was the Rays vs. Jays, I'm probably cheering for the Rays. Against any other team I'm probably cheering for the Jays cause I know just contending is keeping AA around anyway.

 

What I don't understand is that for the past year and a half (or longer) BTS and I have been the most critical two about the moves made, specifically pointing out that they aren't made for long term success. But then most think it's insane that we won't support every aspect of this team. I realize what a playoff run would do for this team financially and keeping spending up into the upper half of the league, but that's not going to change my views about how to run a team. I know you can't start a long time playoff run without the first one...but I really struggle to see this org making that kind of run.

Time to re-evaluate why you're a fan in the first place. You don't have to isolate yourself from the rest of us. We all hate AA, we all understand that he has an unjust level of job security because Beeston is equally incompetent. It's the cycle of being a sports fan, certain regimes are flat out exhausting.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

I choose not to stay in an equal relationship. I have needs and expectations. The Jays F.O. didn't fulfill them. Rather than cheat I chose to dump the team, but I keep them close in case they ever change.

 

Sounds like almost every single relationship I've ever been in!

[TheHurl]

I disagree, I think it's ownership, president and then the GM. Bill DeWitt wouldn't have allowed the Marlins trade. That's where it starts, a good owner sets a vision for his franchise and doesn't deviate from it because of some injury and performance setbacks. The president and GM know what the vision is and execute it to the best of their abilities.

 

Anyway, just my thoughts.

 

Owners should only be there to collect cheques and say "yes". Presidents should be there to wave to the crowd and take press conferences when important GM'ing work is getting done.

[ElNik2013]

Owners should only be there to collect cheques and say "yes". Presidents should be there to wave to the crowd and take press conferences when important GM'ing work is getting done.

 

 

I disagree. Sternberg in TB and DeWitt in SL knew what they wanted to do and hired the right people to do the job. I just think that's where their success starts.

[mitchf]

Owners should only be there to collect cheques and say "yes". Presidents should be there to wave to the crowd and take press conferences when important GM'ing work is getting done.

Based on what?

 

There is no model and we have no idea of knowing what the owner's impact really is.

[GD]

Lol well said but I'm too loyal to do that. Just cheat on them with another team till they get their s*** together.

 

Wut

 

Jesus christ I'm glad my relationship isn't like the ones in this thread lol

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Wut

 

Jesus christ I'm glad my relationship isn't like the ones in this thread lol

 

You can't cheat on your mom bro

[GD]

You can't cheat on your mom bro

 

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[GD]

King go away you're like 8.

[TheHurl]

Time to re-evaluate why you're a fan in the first place. You don't have to isolate yourself from the rest of us. We all hate AA, we all understand that he has an unjust level of job security because Beeston is equally incompetent. It's the cycle of being a sports fan, certain regimes are flat out exhausting.

 

I'm a baseball fan first and foremost. The Jays are a geographic convenience for me. Honestly a lot of what I'm saying today is true...but I'm saying it in a very tongue-in-cheek way. In between me leaving my job and returning to school I spent 2 years watching baseball, mostly minor league ball. The only teams I made sure I watched every game were the Jays affiliates and if I'm in the position to do so again this summer I will watch every Buffalo, Lansing and NH game on TV. In that way I'm kind of an enigma as I truly want to see future Jays...but I couldn't care less about the team that the Jays are throwing out there.