Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 So seriously I'm not trolling... but assuming both teams are healthy, would you really bet on the Raps over Lebr.. I mean the Cavs in a playoff series? Kool-aid is nice sometimes:) That's a silly question. A gambling newb here trying to be a smartass. You have to frame the question right, gambling newb. Would I take the Raptors in an even money bet....no, what a stupid idea that would be. Would I take them at +150 or higher, which would be the going rate with the home court advantage if the season ended today. Yes, I would.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 Not sure how many times Bron's teams have to coast regular season to know they're coasting. Let's just bookmark these posts I don't know what you're getting at here. I don't expect the Cavs to crap out come the playoffs, but they most certainly are not the clear cut best team in the East like the last couple of years, the Celtics and Raptors present huge problems for them. Could I see Cleveland winning the East? Of course, but they won't just sweep everyone like last year.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 I don't know what you're getting at here. I don't expect the Cavs to crap out come the playoffs, but they most certainly are not the clear cut best team in the East like the last couple of years, the Celtics and Raptors present huge problems for them. Could I see Cleveland winning the East? Of course, but they won't just sweep everyone like last year. Not sure how clear cut they were last year when Boston had better record and TOR same record
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 The thing with Lebron lead teams is that they have a history of turning it on in the playoffs (Cleveland and Miami). So, yes, they look like garbage right now...but don't sleep on them. Those veteran teams can be very dangerous when they get on the same page. It may not happen, but don't be surprised. I think the key to beating them in the playoffs will be to play extremely fast. Cavs will no doubt turn it up in the playoffs but at the same time they are still old and slow and have limitations on defense. If the Raps or Celtics (maybe even the Wiz) run in transition I think they have a good chance of beating them. The Pace always slows down in the playoffs because teams don't want to risk turning the ball over but a smart coach will realize that's going to be how you beat them.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 For the Raps the biggest questions are going to be: 1. Can Derozan and Lowry play to their talent level 2. Can the young players knock down open shots. Delon, OG, VV and Siakam are going to be left open as teams rightfully will focus on Lowry and Derozan. I'm confident in the Raptors defense being good enough as they've shown all year they are a top team with all of their length and athleticism so I think that will translate. Then bench isn't going to be a factor as much given stars play 35-40 min in the playoffs.
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 I don't know what you're getting at here. I don't expect the Cavs to crap out come the playoffs, but they most certainly are not the clear cut best team in the East like the last couple of years, the Celtics and Raptors present huge problems for them. Could I see Cleveland winning the East? Of course, but they won't just sweep everyone like last year. Until Lebron actually gets beat, I'd say Cleveland is the clear cut favourite. Casey needs to stop with the 12 man rotation though and go hard for that 1 seed. The bucks or Washington would be a good entertaining series. Getting bounced in 5 by the Cavs would be horrible
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 This game might be incredibly high scoring. Neither team seems interested in playing defense.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Until Lebron actually gets beat, I'd say Cleveland is the clear cut favourite. Casey needs to stop with the 12 man rotation though and go hard for that 1 seed. The bucks or Washington would be a good entertaining series. Getting bounced in 5 by the Cavs would be horrible I can't say I watched any game against TOR but I've seen my fair share of Cavs games this year and Lebron isn't even pretending to play D most of the time lol. It'll all start with him and I expect they're going to turn on the jets post-season
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Raps defence struggling big time. Credit to GS because they've made everything but lots of good looks for them.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Raps defence struggling big time. Credit to GS because they've made everything but lots of good looks for them. Yeah, they're shredding us. Gotta get the first unit back out there.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 2 Points so far in the 2nd Q. GS defence looks amazing. Raps can't get anything.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Well, it'll be interesting to see what adjustments are made in the second half.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Luckily the Raps stopped embarrassing themselves in the third, but Durant just did unspeakable things to OG despite excellent defense. There's only so much you can do against the level of this team and its players.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Wtf is Steve Kerr so mad about? Great run by the Raps in the second half, that's more like it.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Wtf is Steve Kerr so mad about? Great run by the Raps in the second half, that's more like it. Whether we can somehow manage to win this game or not, I think we made a statement. Given that we were down by 27, that's saying something.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 This officiating crew has been terrible. Bad calls/non calls on both teams.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Man, you can't be missing free throws at this point in the game.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 That's ******** of the highest degree. Poeltl didn't touch Curry at all.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Wow, at least THAT blown call is going to appear in the officiating report.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Talk about a "BALL DON'T LIE" situation.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Nothing you can do against that. Demar misses a shot that he can make and Durant is Durant.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Didn't like that last Demar possession. You just knew Durant was gonna make that.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Gotta put OG in here for Siakam.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 That was a terrible possession.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Man what a fantastic game. Normally these types of games don't live up to the hype and it sure looked that way through the first half but it sure delivered.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Remarkable how good Derozan has become. His footwork around the rim and ability to finish with both hands is on another level.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Has anyone seen Markell Fultz's jumpshot? He seriously may have the Yips.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Seriously refs? You see a guy laying on the floor injured and you allow the other team to inbound the ball??? I mean, the calls have been one-sided as it is, but how much more blatant can you get?
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Seriously refs? You see a guy laying on the floor injured and you allow the other team to inbound the ball??? I mean, the calls have been one-sided as it is, but how much more blatant can you get? I wouldn't say the reffing has been one-sided. There's been lots of bad fouls on Philly too. Its just the officiating is bad all around.
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