Todd

Everybody on that list but Alford. He needs to have one season with no injuries and 600 at bats. To prove him self. As of right now for being 25 is one major bust.

with the signing of ryu do the jays still draft 5 overall in the draft?

Only one player on this list that is to old to be on it. Thomas Hatch. But everyone else is between 16 and 24 the cut of point in my opinion to be a prospect.

This is the best 2020 top 30 prospects I have seen for the blue jays Main ViewList View 1. Nate Pearson – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 23 yr, Weight: 245 lbs, Height: 6-6 Hits/Throws: R/R School: JC of Central Florida MLB Draft: Round 1, Overall: 28 Future Value Ceiling: 70 Realistic: 55 Current Level: AAA, ETA: 2020 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 101.2 2.31 30.8 7 40.9 44.4 13.4 .176 One of the top pitching prospects in baseball with a 100 mph fastball and a pair of above average or better secondaries. An absolute monster. Pearson is all of his listed 6-foot-6 250 lbs, with a broad shouldered frame, and a strong lower half. The righthander uses his natural strength to generate one of the hardest fastballs in baseball, consistently sitting 98-100 mph. The fastball generates natural downhill plane due to his large frame, and he’s effective landing it to either side of the plate. The pitch works up in the zone and generates above average spin, but it’s not as deadly high in the zone as one might expect due to the velocity of the pitch. Over the course of 2019 I took in three Pearson starts, two truncated two inning opens and one traditional six inning turn. Depending upon the role his fastball varied in velocity. In the truncated starts Pearson let it fly sitting 99-101, while in his starts he tended to sit 96-98, reaching back for the triple digit heat when needed. He holds his velocity deep into starts, and at times ticked up his second time through the lineup. He mixes in a plus slider that flashes double plus at its best, featuring two plane movement, with late bite and twist. It’s a swing and miss pitch that sits in the mid-80s to low 90s, deadly to righthanders off the plate, but effective when landed to the back foot versus left handed hitters. Pearson will also mix in his curveball, a high 70s offering with 12-6 shape and late bite. I’m not as confident in his changeup developing into a plus pitch the way others are, and the pitch was rarely used across a series of looks this summer. Mechanically Pearson generates excellent extension, helping the perceived velocity of his already electric fastball. He gets a big push off his back leg, working from the stretch in a simple motion toward home, lifting his front leg before dropping and driving toward the plate. Despite his mechanics being relatively simple, there’s effort in his motion if only due to his sheer size and lack of athleticism. It’s not a major red flag but something to watch throughout his career, as it should take effort on his part to maintain his large frame. Elite stuff, size, and a good pitch mix, Pearson has the upside few arms in the minors can match. The ceiling is an elite front of the rotation starter with a power relief floor. 2. Jordan Groshans – 3B/SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 20 yr, Weight: 205 lbs, Height: 6-3 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Magnolia HS MLB Draft: Round 1, Overall: 12 Future Value Ceiling: 60 Realistic: 50 Current Level: A, ETA: 2022 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .337 .427 .481 2 1 1 .144 21.9 13.5 9.9 288.9 A former first rounder coming off an injury shortened campaign with offensive upside. If not for an injury plagued 2019 the Jays 2018 first rounder may have broken out in a big way last season. Instead he impressed in the Midwest League in a truncated 23 game season that ended in mid-May due to a stress fracture in his navicular bone of his left foot. At the time of the injury, Groshans was displaying improved plate discipline and pitch recognition from his rookie ball debut in 2018. Groshans is strong and athletic, with the ability to add good weight onto a prototype frame, leading many to project Groshans to provide plus in game power at maturation. His on-field leadership qualities are often touted by those in the Blue Jays organization, leading many to view him as a future captain and clubhouse leader. After such a small sample in pro-ball, with a strong 2020 in Dunedin he could significantly raise his prospect profile. 3. Alek Manoah – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 21 yr, Weight: 260 lbs, Height: 6-6 Hits/Throws: R/R School: West Virginia MLB Draft: Round 1, Overall: 11 Future Value Ceiling: 60 Realistic: 50 Current Level: A-, ETA: 2022 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 17 2.65 39.7 7.4 36.4 42.4 16 .213 2019 first rounder with number two upside and big stuff. On July 14th, 2018 I packed my oldest son into my family’s SUV and made the near 100 mile trek out to Harwich to catch a 6-foot-7 righthander from West Virginia named Alek Manoah. At that point I knew two things about the Mountaineers pitcher, he was big and he threw hard. That day a star was born, as Manoah struck out 11 Harwich Mariners over six innings of work, showcasing a mid-90s fastball, a wipeout slider, and a changeup that flashed above average shape and fade. In fact, over the last three years this Manoah performance was the best pitched start I’d taken in on the Cape as his stuff matched his pitchability, and his sequencing kept hitters off balance. The righthander continued to impress this spring as he led West Virginia to the Big 12 title game, and a berth as a regional host. It came as no surprise on draft night when the Jays took Manoah 11th overall, making him the second arm selected in the 2019 MLB draft. Mixing a plus fastball sitting 94-95 touching 98 at peak, with sink and armside run, Manoah also has a hard-bitting slider as his best secondary and relied heavily on the pitch this spring. His changeup lacked the same bite and effectiveness it showed on the Cape, but it’s flashed previously leading me to believe it still projects as an above average pitch. After spending his first two seasons in the bullpen in West Virginia, Manoah broke out in the summer of 2018 as a starter. While many might question his future role I’m confident that he’ll remain in the rotation long term, due to his large frame, and a pair of at least average or better secondaries. His elite fastball velocity, swing and miss slider and bullpen experience point to a high floor as a potential lockdown reliever should starting not pan out. That said, I’m confident he remains a starter. 4. Orelvis Martinez – 3B/SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 18 yr, Weight: 188 lbs, Height: 6-1 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 60 Realistic: 50 Current Level: R, ETA: 2023 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .274 .351 .542 7 2 0 .268 17.8 8.6 23 297 Elite teenage prospect with star upside due to the strength of his bat. One of the top players in the 2018 International class the Jays signed Orelvis to a $3.5 million bonus, the second largest in the class, and more than budding superstars Marco Luciano and Noelvi Marte. A fair amount of polish and a balanced skill set across the board make Orelvis a safer J2 signing with a high floor. His ability to impact the game in a variety of ways was the calling card of his profile as an amateur, and not much has changed since coming stateside. While splitting time between shortstop and third base for the GCL Jays, Orelvis produced the highest wRC+ of any player 18 or under. Showcasing plus bat speed and raw power, the teenage slugger is already capable of big pull side power. Six of his seven homers were to left field with three of them measuring 400+ feet. With his advanced approach at the plate Martinez limits his swing and miss, and will likely provide value as an on base threat. He’s an average, to slightly below, runner and his lack of quickness could move him off of shortstop to third base. At the hot corner Martinez’s strong throwing arm should play, and his strong hands and solid footwork could make him a solid defender there. His powerful on base driven profile fits the third base position offensive expectations. A talented teenage prospect with an All-Star ceiling at third. 5. Simeon Woods Richardson – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 19 yr, Weight: 210 lbs, Height: 6-3 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Kempner HS MLB Draft: Round 2, Overall: 48 Future Value Ceiling: 55 Realistic: 50 Current Level: A+, ETA: 2022 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 106.2 3.81 29.2 5.6 46.9 27.8 14.3 .235 A prototypical starting pitching prospect with an exciting pitch mix. Acquired from the New York Mets in July along with lefthander Anthony Kay in exchange for Macrus Stroman, SWR had a breakout 2019 campaign as he impressed during a six game stint in the Florida State League. A University of Texas commit out of high school, Richardson struggled his senior year as his velocity dipped below the mid-90s he flashed on the previous summer’s showcase circuit. Despite the red flags the Mets liked Richardson enough to take him in the second round and pay him above slot. Thus far it’s looked to be a wise pick, the trade to the Jays may prove otherwise. A tall, athletic, broad shouldered frame, Woods-Richardson has the ideal pitcher’s build. He gets excellent extension and hip shoulder separation in his very repeatable delivery. There’s some effort but it’s more a product of explosiveness versus unnatural movement. His pitch mix features two variations of his fastball, a curveball, and a changeup. Each fastball pairs with a secondary giving him an easy plan of attack against batters of each handedness. His four-seam fastball tunnels with his 12-6 curveball, as its backspin causes rise and life, making it deadly when paired with his bender. Conversely his two-seam and its armside run pair well with his changeup, which shows similar movement. The 2-seam+changeup sequence gives Woods-Richardson a natural plan of attack against lefthanders, and the results showed in his final six starts with Dunedin, where he allowed just 7 hits to lefties. In summary, Woods-Richardson repeats his mechanics, flashes above average stuff, throws strikes and possesses a starters build. This gives him a pretty safe floor as a starter with room to grow into more than his mid-rotation realistic grade. 6. Adam Kloffenstein – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 19 yr, Weight: 243 lbs, Height: 6-5 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Magnolia HS MLB Draft: Round 3, Overall: 88 Future Value Ceiling: 55 Realistic: 50 Current Level: A-, ETA: 2023 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 64.1 2.25 24.7 8.9 61.6 24.5 14.1 .203 Big bodied righthander without the velocity to match yet, and an advanced pitch mix for a teen. A big-bodied righthander from the Texas prep ranks, in 2018 the Jays used first round money to lure Kloffenstein away from a strong commitment to TCU. They’ve been cautious early with Kloffenstein, showing him just two innings of work in his 18′ debut, and holding him in extended spring this season before unleashing him on the Northwest League. Over 64.1 innings he showed well, displaying the ability to miss bats and generate a high number of groundballs. Mixing technically five pitches when you count the two variations of his fastball, his two-seam fastball works low in the zone and typically sits low-90s, while his four-seam variation shows more zip and higher velocity readings. His slider is the best of his secondaries showing advanced feel as he shapes the pitch to manipulate its break, teasing harder slider movement or more vertical curveball shape at times. His changeup shows good fade, but it is often inconsistent in its present state. After a strong showing in his first real look of the professional ranks, Kloffenstein should be one of the premier pitching prospects in the Midwest League in 2020. A mid-rotation ceiling with a realistic backend profile, the biggest question facing Kloffenstein’s long term value is the righty’s ability to add fastball velocity. With a big body, it’s conceivable that Kloffenstein is working more 93-95 than his current 90-92 at maturation, but it’s certainly not a given. Another projectable teenage arm with a high floor, and a starter’s body and makeup. 7. Gabriel Moreno – C 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 19 yr, Weight: 160 lbs, Height: 5-11 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 45 Current Level: A, ETA: 2023 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .280 .337 .482 12 7 1 .202 11.1 6.5 6.7 283 An athletic young catcher with projection behind the plate and a contact first profile. Signing for just $25,000 out of Venezuela back in 2016, Moreno has proven a wise investment as the catcher has done nothing but hit since coming stateside two summers ago. It’s a contact over power profile as Moreno showcases innate bat to ball skills and uncanny ability to get to pitches off the plate. You know the profile type, low strikeouts and low walks as he looks to put the ball in play. There’s enough strength and barrel control for Moreno to get to average power at peak. He did show more pop this year in the Midwest League, and has increased his flyball outcomes to the extent that he was 40%+ in 2019. His flyball distances are respectable and he showed significant power to his pull side. Connecting for multiple homers to left field that measured 400+ feet, including a ball that went 460 feet. It’s the key to his profile, if he continues to show above average power production it’s the difference between a 40 and 50 future value. Defensively Moreno is a work in progress, but one that has shown strong skills behind the plate in flashes. His arm is average but his quick release and throwing accuracy have allowed him to throw out runners at a 30%+ clip. Projecting a teenage catcher’s future behind the plate from a handful of looks in Low-A is hardly enough to get a real feel for his catching acumen, as there’s so much that goes into success at the position. There’s certainly enough skill, smarts, and athleticism to project him there long term. 8. Miguel Hiraldo – 2B/SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 19 yr, Weight: 170 lbs, Height: 5-11 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 45 Current Level: A, ETA: 2023 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .298 .346 .481 7 11 3 .183 13.8 5.4 12.1 320.8 A slugging teenage shortstop with advanced plate approach and a mature frame. One of the better hitting prospects in the Dominican Summer League in 2018, Hiraldo debuted stateside this year in Bluefield of the Appy League and picked up where he left off the prior summer. A bat first prospect, Hiraldo is physically advanced for his age, showing little projection remains in his body. It’s likely he moves elsewhere in the infield long term, possibly second or third base. He’s been a bit of a butcher in the field thus far, committing 9 errors in 22 games at short last season. At the plate Hirlado shines, where he controls the strike zone, works deep into counts and looks to make hard contact. He generates plus bat speed, and the advanced physicality manifests itself in above average game power. He’s rarely fooled but manages to balance patience and aggression well. Much of his power is generated to his pull side as he uses his plus bat speed to jump fastballs and rocket balls into play. His swing is compact and strong with a big one handed finish reminiscent of Hanley Ramirez. Despite the big finish his bat path is pretty linear leading to lots of line drives and groundballs, though a respectable 36% flyball rate shows the ability to put the ball in the air is present. Likely to spend a majority of his 2020 in the Midwest League with Lansing. If he conquers the Midwest League and continues to hit in the Florida State League Hiraldo could exit next season as a serious climber. 9. Eric Pardinho – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 18 yr, Weight: 155 lbs, Height: 5-10 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A, ETA: 2022 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 37.2 2.18 23.5 10.7 45.9 36.8 14.6 .224 Brazilian teenage pitching prodigy with a small frame and advanced pitchability. Fresh off a World Baseball Classic debut at 16, Pardinho signed out of Brazil for $1.4 million back in 2017. Since then he’s dealt with a litany of injuries the most serious of which occurred this spring when he strained a ligament in his pitching elbow. The Jays prudently shut him down until late June, where he pitched a single game for the Jays GCL squad before being assigned to Lansing. Pardinho works low-90s with his fastball, pounding low in the zone looking to generate groundball outs. His fastball has added some zip at times when healthy showing he can reach back for 95 when needed. His curveball is his strongest secondary and will flash plus, but he needs to work on the consistency of its shape. He has increased the usage of his changeup and has discussed wanting to increase its usage going into 2020. It’s a solid three pitch mix, with some projection for three above average pitches if you’re optimistic in his changeup. A smart pitcher often credited with advanced sequencing, Pardinho has also discussed his usage of trackman data. In an August interview with Sportsnet, he discussed analyzing his spin rates and extension data to measure his success from start to start. This gives me some comfort in projecting Pardinho to get the most out of his profile. However, his diminutive stature and recent elbow scare give me pause from a risk standpoint. I’m comfortable projecting Pardinho for a backend profile with a mid-rotation ceiling. 10. Kendall Williams – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 19 yr, Weight: 205 lbs, Height: 6-6 Hits/Throws: R/R School: IMG Academy MLB Draft: Round 2, Overall: 52 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 40 Current Level: R, ETA: 2023 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 16 1.13 30.6 11.3 32.4 50 29.9 .109 Florida Prep prospect from the prestigious IMG Academy with a big projectable frame and stuff. Our team caught Williams multiple times leading up to the draft with Kyler Peterson catching him early with IMG. Kyler described Williams in the following to a tee. “Tall, slender frame with loads of projection. Build similar to Forrest Whitley. Long legs and levers. Efficient, fluid delivery with good extension. FB sat 87-91 with run and serious downward plane. Curve can be deadly at 75-76 with slurvy feel flashing more tilt and horizontal break than vertical. Change-up 75-76. Easy to dream on with more velocity coming due to size and athleticism.” This is consistent with other reports including Jason Pennini’s from NHSI. I’d encourage you to click the link and revisit his writeup. With a large range of outcomes for Williams a possibility I’m only comfortable slapping a number four starter ceiling on him at the moment. There’s certainly room for growth due in his massive frame. 11. Anthony Kay – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 24 yr, Weight: 218 lbs, Height: 6-0 Hits/Throws: L/L School: Connecticut MLB Draft: Round 1, Overall: 31 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 40 Current Level: MLB, ETA: 2020 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 133.2 2.97 24.1 10 36.2 47.3 11.3 .224 A lefty with a three pitch mix led by two above average secondaries. A standout at the University of Connecticut Kay, started his pro career on a sour note as he required TJS following the draft. He debuted in 2018, climbing two levels of A-ball, flashing an improved curveball and his signature changeup. He was able to regain his velocity, working 91-93 occasionally bumping 95. He throws a 12-6 downer curveball that generates swings and misses as well as a changeup to righthanders with fade and armside run. To begin 2019 Kay dominated the Eastern League, posting a 1.49 ERA to go along with an opponents batting average of .165 and just two home runs allowed across 12 starts. The promotion to Triple-A Syracuse and the wild offensive environment of the 2019 International League wasn’t so kind. He was dealt to the Jays in July and made a few starts with Buffalo before debuting with the big league club in September. Once players are in the bigs we’re able to get more accurate spin rate and velocity data, as well as reliable pitch usage rates. Kay’s fastball averaged 93.4 mph with average spin rates in the 2300 range. He mixed his changeup and curveball equally both seeing 20% usage, each showing some ability to generate whiffs. It’s a back end of the rotation profile for me, but one that should be able to provide valuable innings and some bright spots when he gets on a run. A nearly finished product with little risk of missing his floor. 12. Leonardo Jimenez – 2B/SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 18 yr, Weight: 160 lbs, Height: 5-11 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A, ETA: 2022 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .292 .370 .369 0 2 1 .077 17.7 8.4 9.8 282.4 Line drive focused approach at the plate with the ability to play both middle infield positions. The Panamanian signed for $825K back in 2017 and has performed well through two rookie ball stops. An above average hit tool leads his profile, with a hit over power, contact driven approach. He’s split time between second and short, showing good infield actions and an average to slightly above average arm. Naturally at his age there’s some inconsistent moments, but you can project Jimenez sticking in the middle of the infield. At the plate Jimenez sets up slightly open with his front leg bent, utilizing a toe tap before striding forward. His hands are busy pre-load, but he quickly gets them into rhythm before getting his bat on plane. It’s mostly line drive contact, with a fair amount of flyballs for a player that lacks power. He’s added good weight between his 2018 stint in the GCL and 2019, as he looked more filled out and muscular. He has decent bat speed and strong bat to ball skills, it takes a fair amount of projection but I can see fringe-average power at peak. Overall a strong sum-of-his-parts player with an everyday regular ceiling. How Jimenez handles his first full season assignment will determine whether he holds this rank. 13. Otto Lopez – SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 21 yr, Weight: 160 lbs, Height: 5-10 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A, ETA: 2022 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .324 .371 .418 4 20 15 .094 12.9 7 8.3 277.4 Versatile fielder with plus speed and an above average hit tool. Utility floor with leadoff ceiling. Otto Lopez seems like he should be a Blue Jays folk hero for a variety of reasons. None that involve the strange chocolate cheese name combination of Otto and the surname Lopez. Rather, Lopez’s background as a dual citizen of both Canada and his native Dominican Republic makes him a unique player. Lopez spent his teen years in Montreal and has been a member of several Team Canada squads throughout his amateur career. On the field Lopez is a versatile player, having seen time at second, shortstop, third base, and all three outfield positions. He’s a plus runner with enough defensive chops to fill in any role in the dirt or on the grass. So regardless of how well Lopez hits, his speed and defense alone should be enough to get him some chances at the big league level. At the plate Lopez is heavily contact focused but has shown a keen eye at the plate and an advanced approach throughout his career. Hardly ever expanding the zone, Lopez seems to get his bat on most anything he swings at. The larger issue is Lopez lack of true power. While his slugging numbers have trended up, Lopez is still heavily ground ball focused with a spread’em out and run focus. He can still turn on the pullside power when needed though, so perhaps there’s more hope. The profile reads like a utility player with some offensive upside. If Lopez can add enough power to really drive the ball into the gap he has an outside shot at becoming an everyday regular, but there’s a fair amount of projection to get there. 14. Dasan Brown – OF 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 18 yr, Weight: 185 lbs, Height: 6-0 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Abbey Park HS MLB Draft: Round 3, Overall: 88 Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 40 Current Level: R, ETA: 2024 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .222 .444 .355 0 6 2 .133 27 14.3 15.2 295.3 2019 Canadian Prep pick with tons of upside and a high defensive floor. Elite athlete. A premium athlete and 80 grade runner from the Ontario prep ranks, Brown is a home cooked pick with huge upside. It’s a matter of making something of Brown’s raw tools. He easily profiles as a center fielder long term with his speed, instincts, and strong throwing arm. At the moment his offensive game is raw, however. Brown’s current swing is balanced and strong mechanically. Setting up from a slightly open stance and starting his swing with a slight leg kick before engaging. He’s prone to get out on his front foot, and can get tied up with advanced sequencing. He looked a little behind on the better fastballs he saw, and struggled to recognize spin, often flailing at junk in the dirt or expanding the zone needlessly. He’s shown enough line drive ability in batting practice to imagine some projection from the hit tool front. It’s also an excellent body for long term gains. As he’s strong, lean, high waisted and athletic. Adding good weight over the next several seasons shouldn’t be an issue. If Brown is able to manifest his athletic skills with an improved hit tool, and more strength a possibility of a four tool center fielder with fringe average power is a possibility. He’s one of the most exciting athletes in the system but one with a fair amount of projection and a significant amount of risk. 15. Chavez Young – OF 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 22 yr, Weight: 195 lbs, Height: 6-0 Hits/Throws: S/R School: Faith Baptist Christian Academy MLB Draft: Round 39, Overall: 1182 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A+, ETA: 2022 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .246 .314 .351 6 24 11 .105 22.8 7.8 10.4 278.7 Toolsy switch-hitter with different plate profiles from each side. There’s few background stories as unique as Young’s, as the native Bahamian spent time in high school in both Florida and Georgia before sneaking in a $200,000 bonus from the Jays in the 39th round. Young proved to be a steal early in his pro career as he broke out producing strong lines across two levels of A-ball in 2018 and 2019. A plus runner with the ability to make hard contact to all fields, Young’s bat speed allows him to turn on fastballs on the inner half and make pitchers pay. His above average instincts play up his base-stealing ability as well as defensive chops in center. If his power can continue to develop and his approach improves there’s another exciting athlete in the system to dream on. 16. Alejandro Kirk – C 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 21 yr, Weight: 220 lbs, Height: 5-9 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A+, ETA: 2023 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .290 .403 .458 7 3 0 .168 10.5 15.1 5.3 291.6 A bat first catching prospect with a knack for getting on base and power to his pullside. Few players have put up the type of production Kirk has over the last two seasons, as he’s slashed .318/.419/.502 with a 14.4 BB% and a 9.7 K%. It’s an advanced hit tool, with elite feel for the zone and pitch recognition that’s overwhelmed lower level pitching. His power is only average in game, but he shows at least average raw in batting practice. His uncanny ability to get the bat on the ball and work the count makes him an incredibly difficult out. Kirk’s physical makeup is below average, with a bad body being an understatement. He’s short and overweight with a large midsection. It’s a Dan Vogelbach type of physique. He gets the most of his ability behind the plate displaying a strong arm, and showing the ability to hold runners in check. He’s a solid blocker, but might ultimately become hindered by his poor physical projection. An intriguing bat with some real questions. 17. Griffin Conine – OF 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 22 yr, Weight: 200 lbs, Height: 6-1 Hits/Throws: L/R School: Duke MLB Draft: Round 2, Overall: 52 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A, ETA: 2022 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .280 .369 .566 21 2 0 .286 36 11 20.7 320.3 Power over hit corner outfield prototype coming off a rebound season in 2019. The Blue Jays love their MLB bloodlines and Conine, their 2018 second rounder, is the next in line to feed Toronto’s legacy fetish. A player of some pedigree as not only the son of former MLB All-Star Jeff Conine, but also a former standout for Duke. He broke out over the summer of 2017, pacing the Cape Cod League circuit in homers, showing off impressive power in the historically power-starved environments of the Cape. Riding the high of the CCBL breakout, Conine’s spring was tumultuous as he struggled with strikeouts, lending credence to lingering hit tool concerns. Toronto however was not deterred as they plucked Conine in the second round and paid him $1.35 million. Conine appeared in two rookie leagues games out of the draft before he was assigned to Toronto’s short season affiliate in Vancouver. Over 55 games Conine put up a league average line, flashing his prodigious power, and worrisome swing and miss. Things got off to a sour note in 2019 as he tested positive for Ridilin and served a 50 game suspension to begin the season. Assigned to the Midwest League in the final days of May, Conine hit well through three months of action producing strong power numbers. The production was once again marred by concerning strikeout rates. Even beyond his 35%+ K-rate, Conine’s 20.8 SwStr% was the worst among Lansing batters with 300 PAs or more despite being on the older end of competition. Many saw the slashline and joined the gravy train, but I’d caution against overzealous reactions. Advanced college players with big conference experience don’t typically spend the first full season post draft in low-A ball unless there are serious concerns. Conine’s power is easy plus with the ability to drive pitches to any part of the ballpark. His splits are fine from a power standpoint, though his approach is noticeably worse against lefthanders. Overall a future 40 hit/60 power bat seems realistic. At the moment a 30 hit tool grade might be generous, but his quality of contact and his strong batted ball profile leave hope for the optimist in me. Conine is adequate in either corner with a strong throwing arm, his bat and defensive profile fit in right field long term and he reads the ball off the bat well enough to compensate for below average foot speed. Likely a second division regular peak, but there’s a shot he only develops into a platoon corner outfield bat. Not a profile in high demand these days. 18. Patrick Murphy – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 24 yr, Weight: 220 lbs, Height: 6-4 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Hamilton (AZ) HS MLB Draft: Round 3, Overall: 83 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: AA, ETA: 2020 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 84 4.71 23.6 7.4 52.6 28.3 11.5 .226 After his landing foot toe tap was deemed illegal, Murphy’s season was derailed by adjustments and a shoulder injury. It’s been a long and winding road for Murphy who first joined the Blue Jays organization from the prep ranks in 2013. Since then Murphy has dealt with “Six Flags” worthy ups and downs, including TJS and Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. Murphy broke out to an extent in 2018 and carried the momentum through the early part of 2019. Following his start on June 2nd, Murphy was informed by MiLB officials that his delivery was now illegal and the righthander was forced to adjust on the fly. Murphy’s natural delivery featured a late toe tap on his plant foot before releasing the ball. The quirk was a timing mechanism Murphy had employed dating back to his early days as an amateur. Now Murphy, in the upper minors the owner of a 3.09 FIP, 4.06 K/BB, and a .199 opponents batting average against, had to alter something he’d always done. The results following were not great. Over the next six starts from June 7th until July 13th Murphy struggled with his control, watching his walk rate nearly double over those six starts. His ERA ballooned over that period and eventually it culminated in a shoulder injury that left him on the shelf until the last week of the season. It’s hard to gauge which Murphy to expect in 2020. I caught Murphy on opening night in Manchester opposite now system mate Anthony Kay and later on in May for another start. Each time Murphy executed perfectly working his fastball to both sides of the plate at 93-95 touching 96 on occasion. He mixes in a tight curveball in the high-70s range and a changeup with that was effective when thrown against left handed hitters. He generates lots of groundball contact with his fastball and gets a respectable amount of swings and misses. Unfortunately the start I caught in July was the opposite, a rough outing all around where Murphy was beat up. It’s a backend profile and I’m pretty certain of him reaching it. Post-mechanics change the stuff was still there, I’ll give Murphy the benefit of the doubt as he did it on the go. A full and healthy off-season should allow him to properly prepare to debut in Toronto this season. 19. Rikelvin de Castro – SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 16 yr, Weight: 150 lbs, Height: 6-0 Hits/Throws: R/R Future Value Ceiling: 50 Realistic: 40 Current Level: NA , ETA: 2024 The top international signing for the Blue Jays in 2019. Defensive wizard with off the charts athleticism. Castro signed for $1.2 million out of the D.R. in July, commanding the largest chunk of the Jays bonus pool in 2019. Often lauded for his high energy game and high baseball IQ that play up all his tools, it’s his glove that has gotten heaps of praise in early reports. Blessed with a lightning fast first step, de Castro is the very definition of rangy. He’s a quick twitch athlete with an impressive arm. At the plate, he’s still very slight in terms of mass, but looks like he could add good weight which may boost his power profile. He utilizes a slight inverted toe tap as a timing mechanism, and gets deep into his back leg in his stroke. Flashing above average bat speed and a slight uppercut bat path, I can see Castro finding fringe average power at peak. The defensive profile looks phenomenal, if he can hit enough to be an average offensive player Castro could be an everyday shortstop at the big league level, but there’s a long way to go. 20. Kevin Smith – SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 23 yr, Weight: 188 lbs, Height: 5-11 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Maryland MLB Draft: Round 4, Overall: 129 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: AA, ETA: 2021 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .207 .261 .400 19 11 6 .193 32.6 6.3 17.8 0 A breakout 2018 was followed by a rough 2019 follow up in AA, leading to significant concerns about the hit tool versus upper-level pitching. I remember watching Smith on that cold night in early April last year and thinking “is he always this susceptible to spin?”. A player whos 2018 breakout drew excitement from nearly all corners of prospect coverage, he didn’t look the part. It’s a heavy power over contact profile with an approach geared toward pullside power. While the raw power deserves a 60, in game his 30 grade hit tool draws away from his power’s true ceiling. A 64% contact rate, an inability to pick up spin, and a propensity to expand the zone plagued Smith. He’ll often swing through good pitches, get tied up by good sequencing and find himself between pitches without the plus bat speed needed to compensate. Fortunately for Smith, his supporting tools do raise his overall profile. A competent fielder on the left side of the infield, Smith makes up for just average arm strength with good footwork, excellent hands and transfer ability. He’s likely to move off of shortstop but could find a home at either third base or second. He has the foot speed, as a consistently 50 runner across a dozen looks, to cover an outfield corner if the Blue Jays decide to experiment. Ultimately Smith’s best position might be second base, where his plus power could play up and his strong infield actions would profile above average to plus at the position. It’s all a matter of Smith making enough contact. 21. Will Robertson – OF 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 21 yr, Weight: 215 lbs, Height: 6-2 Hits/Throws: L/L School: Creighton MLB Draft: Round 4, Overall: 117 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A-, ETA: 2023 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .267 .365 .403 6 1 2 .136 18.6 11.8 9.3 291.1 A standout performer at Creighton, Robertson is an underrated bat first college prospect. One of the better hit tools in the college class, the Jays may have found yet another college bat with upside after the second round. Here’s what we wrote about Robertson pre-draft: “Robertson is an intriguing prospect coming off a strong sophomore season and solid junior year. Robertson has a good hit tool that he flashed in both years but has more recently been a pull approach hitter leading to more strikeouts than his sophomore year. He has an athletic frame at 6-foot-2, 210 lbs but seems to be filled out at this point. Robertson has an open stance where he rests his weight heavy on his back leg. Leading to an average leg kick that starts his swing. Robertson has good bat speed with loft leading to good power in his bat that isn’t just all pull power. If Robertson can change his approach to be able to use his power and loft to all fields, he could be a promising prospect in the future.” Robertson showed well in his introduction to professional ball earning a nod on our Northwest League All-Star team at season’s end. The splits lead to some questions about his ability to hit left handed pitching, and his power output was underwhelming for a player as advanced as Robertson. That said, it’s a small sample, but something to monitor in 2020 and beyond. The team at Prospects Live should get a good look at Robertson as he works his way through Lansing, Dunedin, New Hampshire, and Buffalo. 22. Tanner Morris – 2B/SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 21 yr, Weight: 190 lbs, Height: 6-2 Hits/Throws: L/R School: Virginia MLB Draft: Round 5, Overall: 147 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A-, ETA: 2023 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .245 .384 .343 2 4 2 .098 19 16.6 7.3 271.3 Strong college performer at the plate with a limited defensive profile. I covered Morris in my Cape Cod Baseball League 2018 look back a couple of months back. Here’s what I wrote: “Excellent performer at the plate during his two seasons at UVA and that was true over the summer of 2018. Morris showed the ability to make consistently strong contact and a habit of putting the ball in play. His swing is a little stiff, as he’s not the most athletic specimen, but he’s smart about what he swings at and shows an understanding of the game. He lacks range in the middle infield, but shows at least adequate hands at short. Saw an equal amount of time at both short and second in his debut with the Toronto organization. Fits the mold of a bat first second baseman with a hit over power profile. Power didn’t play at all in 64 Northwest League games, but he should find at least average pop at maturity.” A high floor bat with the risk of being an empty average profile. He’s likely second base only as his range really limits his ability on the left side of the dirt. 23. Estiven Machado – SS 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 17 yr, Weight: 165 lbs, Height: 5-10 Hits/Throws: B/R Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: NA, ETA: 2025 Athletic shortstop from the Jays 2019 International Class. Switch-hitter with knack for contact and average power projection. One of the top players in a deep class as the Blue Jays spread their money amongst a group of solid prospects. Machado, like classmate Rikelvin de Castro, is a shortstop with the infield actions and footwork to stick at the position, though he’s less rangy than de Castro. Machado, a switch-hitter, shows above average contact skills from both sides of the plate and gap to gap power at present. He’s an average runner, but good athlete so he should maintain his speed. Looks the part of a solid hitting shortstop but the range of outcomes is tremendously wide at this point. 24. Ryan Noda – 1B/OF 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 23 yr, Weight: 217 lbs, Height: 6-3 Hits/Throws: L/L School: Cincinnati MLB Draft: Round 15, Overall: 459 Future Value Ceiling: 40 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A+, ETA: 2021 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .238 .371 .417 13 14 2 .179 29.4 15.8 14.3 304.3 Former 15th round standout who’s flashed plus on base ability and power. Likely strong-side platoon first baseman at maturity. A simple statistical search of the leaderboards of the Midwest League in 2018 and subsequently the 2019 Florida State League will have you believing Ryan Noda is one of the top hitters in the minors. While it’s not debatable that he’s been one of its most productive hitters, it’s a profile that leads to suspicions on how his production will translate to the upper minors and beyond. Let’s briefly look at the good and the bad. The Good – Noda led all players with 400 PAs in high-A or higher in hard contact in 2019 per Rotowire, with a hard rate of 46.7%. So needless to say there’s at minimum plus raw power. The raw however is not the carrying tool in his plate profile, it’s his patience that jumps out at you. A former University of Cincinnati Bearcat, Noda studied fellow alumnus Kevin Youkilis at the plate, emulating his balance of patience and aggressiveness. This pairing has led to strong showings statistically despite a poor batting average in 2019. He’s also adept at shortening up with two strikes and looking toward a more contact oriented approach. At worst Noda should be credited as a heady hitter. His swing has something nostalgic about it, maybe it’s the bat path or the fact that Noda is a member of the no batting gloves club. Either or. The Bad – The swing. A unique bat path that’s flat entering the zone with sharp late uppercut plane. It’s an interesting take as he gets into his lower half as he turns over, but his hips are a little stiff and he uses his legs to fire his gate. His hands aren’t particularly quick, and his power is mostly driven by the strength from his muscular frame. The combination of his lack of elite bat speed, and his unusual swing path makes him susceptible to inside fastballs, particularly those 93+ mph, and breaking stuff down and away. His contact in the zone isn’t great either as he’ll often swing through hittable pitches. His elite on base ability raises the overall grade of the hit tool. His near 30 percent strikeout rate is the product of poor contact skills, his patient and almost passive approach, struggles versus lefthanders, and the larger strike zones of A-ball. A below average runner, Noda is likely at best a below average left fielder, if he’s not moved off the position almost entirely. He did split time between first base and left, even seeing some starts in right field. The overall profile leads me to a strong-side platoon bat at first base with an on base slanted profile. 25. Samad Taylor – 2B 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 21 yr, Weight: 160 lbs, Height: 5-10 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Corona (CA) HS MLB Draft: Round 10, Overall: 302 Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: A+, ETA: 2022 2019 AVG OBP SLG HR SB CS ISO K% BB% SwStr% Est FB (ft) - .216 .325 .363 7 26 10 .147 27.9 12.8 12.2 297.3 A former Indians draft pick from the prep ranks with plus speed, strong plate discipline, and average game power. Athletic and speedy, Taylor packs a little more punch than you’d expect from a player his size (listed 5-foot-10 165 lbs). But his game his predicated on shooting the gaps and getting on base. He’s patient almost to a fault at times, and will swing through pitches in the zone. He struggled to make contact consistently in 2019, but had been an above average contact hitter previously. He puts the ball in the air at a high clip for a player with his speed, which might be to the detriment of his BABIP. Much of his in game power derives from his uppercut swing path and excellent bat speed. His hands are lightning fast, leading to an average power ceiling. He’s just too slight in frame to ever project for more than that. Taylor is a plus runner and instinctual base stealer. An elite athlete will little concern his speed won’t age well. Taylor’s profile defensively is a little unusual as he’s a second base only athlete with a strong glove. I’m a little surprised he hasn’t been used in the outfield where his speed could play in center. With the way second base defense has been devalued, plus defense at the position isn’t a huge selling point. Taylor is a likely athletic role player that could find playing time through his versatility. 26. Hector Perez – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 23 yr, Weight: 218 lbs, Height: 6-3 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 40 Realistic: 40 Current Level: AA, ETA: 2020 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 115.1 4.61 22.4 13 41.5 39.7 12.2 .271 Righthander with filthy stuff and little idea where it’s going to land. Possible elite relief ceiling if everything breaks right. A former Astros farmhand, Perez has some of the best stuff on his fastball I’ve seen in the last few years. It was electric with 94-97 mph velocity and lots of rise up in the zone and armside run when he ripped off his two seam variation. He mixes in a split-change that generates swing and misses and pair of breaking balls, a hard slider being the better of the two. Perez spent the entirety of the season in New Hampshire’s rotation, generally going deep into games. It’s a backend starter profile due to legit command concerns, but a pitch mix I firmly believe could survive in the pen long term. 27. Yennsy Diaz – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 23 yr, Weight: 202 lbs, Height: 6-1 Hits/Throws: R/R Acquired: J2 Future Value Ceiling: 40 Realistic: 40 Current Level: AA, ETA: 2019 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 144.1 3.75 19.1 8.7 41.1 46.1 10.5 .228 Solid backend starter profile, but fastball + curveball combination could really play up in bullpen role. ”The stuff jumps out at you.” That was the first thing I wrote in my pad when I caught Yennsy back in late May. The fastball was 93-95 touching 96 with some armside run. He mixed in a curveball in the high-70s hard changeup that sat 87-89. The fastball is an easy 50 for me with some more upside in a pen role. His command is spotty with the pitch as he’ll often miss to the outer edges when working away. The curveball is the better of the two secondary pitches, with two plane break giving it some slurvy shape. His changeup is too firm, bleeding into his fastball at 90-91 MPH at times. If he could work with similar late dive in the mid-80s it’s a really viable third pitch. He saw some time with Toronto this season and could get some extended run in 2020 should they decide to move him into the pen. 28. Thomas Hatch – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 25 yr, Weight: 200 lbs, Height: 6-1 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Oklahoma State MLB Draft: Round 3, Overall: 104 Future Value Ceiling: 40 Realistic: 40 Current Level: AA, ETA: 2020 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 135.1 4.13 22.7 7 40.8 42.5 13.7 .251 A backend profile with a deep pitch mix and a pair of potential above average pitches. Likely to see some MLB time in 2020. Traded for David Phelps at last season’s trade deadline, in many ways Hatch projects out similarly to Phelps. Predominantly fastball + slider coming into 2019, Hatch added a cutter that got solid results. Some reports like his changeup more than his slider referencing his willingness to use it versus righthanders, while others don’t mention it at all. I got a late season look at Hatch and it was mostly fastball, slider, cutter. His fastball command isn’t great and he’ll struggle to land it gloveside, making him far more effective in on right-handed batters and off the plate versus lefties. A quick arm from a true three quarters arm slot, Hatch delivers to home quickly with deep push from his back leg, which swings forward as he drives through his delivery. Looks like a tweener between backend starter and lower leverage relief arm. 29. Peniel Brito – OF 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 16 yr, Weight: 190 lbs, Height: 6-3 Hits/Throws: R/R Future Value Ceiling: 45 Realistic: 40 Current Level: NA, ETA: 2025 A power hitting International signing from the most recent class with plus bat speed and plus raw power projection. I’m sure some will lobby for Robert Robertis or Victor Mesia but I’m a big fan of Brito’s swing and his lightning quick bat. Both Robertis and Mesia flash better tools defensively and might have a higher ceiling overall but they just missed the cut. Brito makes it because he flashes plus bat to ball skills and raw power. He’s a towering at 6-foot-3 and likely over 200 lbs, so there’s strength in the frame but some long term maintenance concerns. In my opinion he’s the best bat in the Blue Jays 2019 class, but it will have to carry the profile. He played predominantly outfield as an amateur but the Blue Jays moved him to third base upon signing. He’s new to the position so his footwork is raw, and his longer levers look awkward in the infield to begin with. Has the arm for third base but it’s very much an experiment. 30. T.J. Zeuch – P 2019 Top-30 Bio: Age: 24 yr, Weight: 225 lbs, Height: 6-7 Hits/Throws: R/R School: Pittsburgh MLB Draft: Round 1, Overall: 21 Future Value Ceiling: 40 Realistic: 30 Current Level: MLB, ETA: 2020 2019 IP ERA K% BB% GB% FB% SwStr% BAA - 86.2 3.76 13.7 9.1 58.4 21 9.9 .233 The giant righthander made his major league debut in 2019, but his below average fastball and command betrayed him. At 6-foot-7 225 lbs Zeuch is an imposing figure on the mound, he mixes four pitches with two variations of his fastball, though his four-seamer is hardly used. He primarily pitches off of his sinker which sits low 90s with solid downhill plane. The pitch however was smoked at the major league level for a .395 wOBA against. It gets worse unfortunately, as his expected outcomes were somehow significantly more unsightly at an ugly .451 xwOBA. His two best offerings were his changeup and slider both with solid outcomes and expected outcomes. His four-seam fastball and curveball are infrequently deployed, but neither has much in the way of spin. Due to Zeuch’s immense size I won’t rule out him adding a tick or two to his fastball velocity in the coming years, I can also see a pathway to success where he leans more heavily on his slider and changeup, relying less on his fastball. However as it stands it’s a fringe MLB player and a role 30 profile for me. 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Here is a question for you. Does this signing help in any way the jays signing Ryu?

What in the hell are the blue jays waiting for.

As other teams get better the jays sit on they asses and do nothing but talk ********. For the third straight year. What a disappointment this management team is turning out to be. Enough with the talk and do the right thing. Just do something to help this team get better. Might be time to force things to get going.

Jay let another player slip past them. Then the jays management wonders why blue jays fans are upset with them. Like i said before all talk no action.

Another disappointing winter meetings for the blue jays. Didn't really improve anything. But this is starting to be the norm for this team. Talk a good game but do nothing.

Gord Ash might have sucked ass but the point i'm trying to make with both Pat and Gord is both got s*** done fast and not sat on they asses until something happened. They made in happen fast then played golf the rest of the time. Now who and what they wanted.

He may not have been the best G.M but he still got s*** done. Good or Bad.

actually this is number like 25 years with the jays. And the last three have been ******** with the jays management. All talk no action. Pat Gillick was the best a close second was Gord Ash. Both like to get s*** done right away. Not pussy foot around.

Day number three and still all i'm hearing is talk. This sounds alot like the last three years with these guys. And all the other teams have improved itself but not the jays. But al least the jays have signed 42 international free agents

Smart thing for the jays to do is sign Yoshitomo Tsutsugo and Edwin. Plus to starters and two bullpen pitchers

Basically the blue jays will not be adding to pay roll this year. Even thou they have the money to spend.

jays management do what they do best lie to they fans about wanting to improve team. But sit on they asses and do nothing.

Get ready for it. Come the end of the winter meetings jays are going to say we layed alot of ground work for future signings or trades like they do ever year. So pretty much ********.

And as usually the jays waited to long to sign a starting pitcher that no above ave. pitcher will sign with the jays now. Great job jays.

So some time last night or this morning the jays signed some useless pitcher James Dykstra.

All talk as usually. More crap players coming to Toronto. Via free agents

Time for the jays management team to put up or shut up. Jays need a big splash this year.

I'm doing good. and you. Hopefully by the end of next week this team has three or four new players on it that will get them closer to contention. And one more thing if the jays do end up trading Ken Giles hopefully the jays get more then what Baltimore got for Dylan in his trade,

Isn't that what he has said for the last three years.

As usually the blue jays on sitting on they asses doing nothing. Saying the same crap like the list three years. We are talking to this guy and this guy but no activity. NOT improving this up and coming team.

Best case for the jays for the outfield would be Lourdes Gurriel, Randal Grichuk, Cavan Biggio. But That would mean need a second baseman.