Omar

Yeah, I think scouting vp is a tier below executive vp. AA won't let him go though.

So we know the pen is a shitshow. What are the potential moves Atkins could make at this time? Will it be strictly pen help or is will he pull the trigger on a starter? Who will he move? The potentials acquisition pieces as I see are as follows (excluding teams from the AL East which I assume will never consumate a deal with us currently). I am only looking at arms: David Bednar, RHP, Pirates, : He will be costly. He is pre arbritration so controllable until 2026. Paul Blackburn, A's, RHP: pre arbitration and controllable to 2025 Madison Baumgarner: Why not take a shot? He's pricey but only owed $14 million in 2024. Brad Keller, RHP, Royals: 4.37 era in 16 starts, arbitration eligible in 2023. Maybe get him on the cheap, Atkins style Mike Clevenger, RHP, Padres: tj surgery last year, bounce back year, free agent after this year so a complete rental. Blake Snell, LHP, Padres: He can be gotten for the right price, bring him back to the al east and let him wreak havoc on the Rays:cool: Owed $16.6m next year Lou Trivino, RHP, A's: This is more Atkins style. Gives up hard contact so he'll fit right in with our pen. Alex Colome, RHP, Rockies: Can still throw hard, ground ball inducing, put him in the pen with Yimi and they can be friends. Steve Cishek, RHP, Nationals: 4.60era! Maybe get him on the cheap. Free agent after this year. Daniel Bard, RHP, Rockies; He's an oldie at 37 but can be gotten on the cheap. Mycal Givens, RHP, Cubs: strikes out a bunch and walks a bunch; I think Atkins is all over this guy. He will be a rental. Jose Quintana, RHP, Pirates: If you know, you know. Yeah, he might get rocked in the AL east but....Rental for this season. Frankie Montas, RHP, A's: The guy we all wanted. Where there's smoke there is fire. Pending his health he could be perfect for us.$5m arbitration eligible in 2023. Luis Castillo RHP, Reds: Atkins has to take a run at getting this guy. Short series with Manoah, Gausman and Castillo...we can go all the way. I think one or more of these names is a real possibility. What do you think?

A couple of weeks ago yardbarker.com had a great article on Dana. I don't think he would move for simply a General Manager role, executive vp minimum.

Consider yourself lucky. Brutal game.

Going to be one of those games:p

No Tapia and Zimmer....someone grew a brain.

July 8 Vladdy - 1 Point - Dylan Kirk - 1 Point - Springer - 2 Points - P2F, Omar Bichette - 2 Points - Stangstag, wilko Chapman - 2 Points - Hernández - 2 Points - Gurriel Jr - 4 Points - Espinal - 6 Points - Biggio - 6 Points - jays4life19 Off the bench: 10 Points -

He stinks.

The scary thing to think of is that Atkins went dumpster diving, got Banda, and put him on the roster immediately. That means that he knows that left over near-do-wells are as good or superior to what we currently have. Yes, the situation is that bad.

Are they even AAAA guys? Lawrence had a good run down there this year but...

Yeah, I think the conversation goes something like, "Look we believe in you, but we think you need a break to work on some things, so we're going to IL you .....and you come back stronger than ever...."

That's every year. Yankees fans were s***ing on Joe Torre the season after winning a World Series. But you didn't answer my question, do you think those managers are employed because of "vibes"? Because to say yes is absurd.

You think Larussa, AJ Hinch, Boone, Dave Roberts are employed for vibes?

Do you remember Jimy Williams?

They are all employed by Rogers.

Last week you wanted to fire Pete Walker (probably our best coach) and now you want to keep Charlie.

He fills out the lineup card. That is enough.

So you are happy with Montoyo as skipper?

If Castillo can hold, we have a chance.

Yes, like every other manager firing in the history of baseball.

Hasn't he always at every level he's been at?