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did i ever pretend to know? but i'd say at the very WORST one of our top 10 prospects/ fringe top 5... osuna? like do people actually think we can get him for goins or loup?
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i think i tried to explain the age/level thing--- as in souza didn't REALLY start developing until 2012--he faced a PED suspension and had motivation issues. he clearly took a step forward in 2012... 25 is not considered an "older prospect" for triple A regardless. maybe at the very threshold for age.. late twenties, 26-29 i think is when you start to have real concerns.. of course you have to adjust down... but not as much as you'd have to adjust for the PCL vs IL that being said, i never said souza was a better prospect than myers... i just feel it is completely delusional to assume we can get him and give up virtually no value.
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ROFL. souza played in 10 games and taylor played in 14. DEFINITELY RANKED HIGHER WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION
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noone said they were equal... and wtf does AL ROY have to do with his 'tradeability"? did the ray sknow they were getting the rookie of the year? but ya, to suggest that Souza could be fetched for goins or loup... while myers commanded a king's ransom..while putting up inferior stats in an more hitter-friendly environment.... delusional
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PED suspension and has been injured throughout his minor league career. he apparently had a major "attitude adjustment" a few years ago and has literally gotten better every season since. i would not consider age 25 to be "age inflation" in the minors what you are referring to is randy ruiz hitting bombs at the age of 55 there.
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well you clearly have no grasp on the value of MiLB players.
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who does? where are your sources on this?
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i mean.. i guess its semantics.. but saying we can get a top 10 prospect (top 5, really.) from the nationals for a replacement level player or a very replaceable reliever... i'd consider that delusional. really nothing personal against JFaS, i was defending him in another thread as far as the age thing goes, i'd agree with you if souza was old. he wasn't. he put up those numbers at age 24.. far from a 'post hype sleeper' edit: you know whats "not even close"? the PCL and the International League for hitters... myers PCL, souza IL
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wil myers AAA numbers when traded: .304/.378/.554 (wRC+ 137) steven souza: .350/.432/.590 (wRC+ 180) myers was younger, yes... but seriously delusional if we think we can get him without giving up significant assets.
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i love this carousel (circular logic) you love to take people on in your arguments--i never argued once that sanchez would be better as a starter or reliever.. i simply argued that making him a reliever this year would not mitigate his chances of being an effective SP in the future.. there is no real evidence pointing that out real evidence would be a reliever, who struggled the very next season in becoming a starter than became an effective one later on
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i didn't literally mean the accolade on its own should merit anything. but that accolade combined with his high profile and very sexy International League (way more trustworthy than PCL) line will actually fetch alot. really delusional to assume otherwise based on the fact that he doesn't fit in the top 3 of their depth chart mike trout was 4th on the angels depth chart for a while... f*** why didn't we just ship off dustin mcgowan for hiM?!
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and i'm going to guess JPA had pretty decent trade value and would have fetched more than goins or loup before he started failing miserably in the majors. his argument was that souza was low on the depth chart and therefore would fetch less value in a trade... he is a top 10 prospect in the nationals organization, i have no idea what makes you guys think we could give up significantly less than that to acquire him
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billy burns had like 2 career minor league jacks. souza just hit .350 with a .432 OBP in AAA with power and defense and you think we can get him for goins+...
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if the nationals are ignoring conventional projections, and you want the blue jays to make a trade based on conventional projections... that is a pretty silly circular argument. you're talking about steven souza right? he was just named nationals minor league player of the year? and you think we can get him for goins+ ? because why? what stats are you looking at? he litereally has a 0 batting average against righties in an irrelevant sample size. our lineup is too righty dominant. poor fit.
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this is an irrelevant argument--daniel bard din't work out as a PITCHER period, reliever or not. absolutely nothing to suggest his early stint as a reliever hindered anything. feliz got hurt. he was better suited as a reliever to begin with.
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lol so by "upside" you mean literally contending for the cy young? because a #3 starter at age 24 in this ballpark in this division is actually a really big deal.
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he hits right handed, and ya, washington isn't simply going to ship off players with high projections because they are low on their depth chart.. that is pretty absurd poor fit
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i think the term 'considerable' is selling him short. he has massive upside imo, and smokey needs to start looking players outside his ERA-tinted glasses
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hutch had a 3.85 fip with a 2.6 war and struck out a batter per inning.. at age 23...in one of the toughest hitters parks in the majors... first year coming back from tommy john surgery... and you're saying he has no upside? pretty ignorant statement imo
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which projections are you looking at? he also hits right and will absolutely not 'come cheap' if he projects to be better than melky or markakis poor fit imo
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markakis is also 2nd generation greek, like AA. contract negotiations over moussaka and wine?
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i dont think making sanchez a reliever this year would affect his ability to start next season at all. wainwright threw 202 ip the season after he was a closer in st louis
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are you implying that mayberry and pillar are better platoon candidates than valencia? valencia plays above average D at 1b and can also play 3b. he would not be a "platoon DH". EE has stated his preference to DH this season, and valencia/smoak are better defenders so why would you even think he would be platooning at DH? he also holds a career .327/.368/.502 (138 wRC+) vs lefties. mayberry: .269/.324/.533 (130 wRC+) pillar: .275/.314/.425 (102 wRC+) why on earth would you keep either of these players vs valencia?
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you're overstating this because this scenario does not happen enough for it to influence many games, if at all. and in the times it does, there will still be times that we get hits off difficult pitching matchups... generally when players are pinch hit for late in games, they often do not come up again to bat, and if they do that means we have scored some runs oakland ran platoons all over the field and they scored 730 runs..in a pitchers park. the benefit of a platoon earlier in the game vs the starting pitcher outweighs the leverage lost later in the game.. i am not the only one who thinks this, baseball in general is platooning more than ever.
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i think markakis is a much better option than melky cabrera... signing melky would essentially mean we lose a draft pick (one we would have otherwise had had he signed elsewhere), and markakis has no QO attatched to his name markakis and melky were worth similar value in 2014, with markakis bringing more defensively (what we need) and melky bringing more offense.. as an average RFer with a strong arm, he would play great in LF. he also doesn't have extreme splits L vs R, and has been an above average hitter his entire career vs both sides...