Travis is average defensively, his defensive prowess is skewed in the eyes of people because he's made some dumb plays in the field. I never even suggested that Travis is a better defender than those guys, but Barney is clearly the superior defender to them all. We actually do know a lot more about the latter, he's been in the league for longer and has stuck around because of his excellent defensive work, and for the Jays he's at least provided adequate offensive output, unlike Goins.