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Dynasty teams (one with J. Donaldson)
jays4life19 replied to dabayner's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Chances of 29 co owners allowing me to trade for Garrett Cooper or Mackenzie Gore? 0.01%? lower? -
Dynasty teams (one with J. Donaldson)
jays4life19 replied to dabayner's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
No Mackenzie Gore or Garrett Cooper so not interested. -
You win
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Any predictions on the $$. I'll guess 8 years and 160 million
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I have no words.
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The Marcus Stroman is a terrific douchebag thread
jays4life19 replied to ValiantJaysFan's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Jermaine Palacios is one prospect going to the Rays, he's an interesting dude but not considered as one of the Twins top 10 prospects.
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Lol Rays
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Yep.
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What street do you live on?
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Can't honestly see any scenario where Sanchez is the opening day starter. I would say everyone outside of Garcia has a better chance.
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Stroman Happ Sanchez Estrada Garcia
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I actually don't know anything about hockey and have never heard of a single player in that trade thus why Mr. Spanks told me to go away. Glad you're happy with your team though! Timo is a badass name and that's why I like the trade for Lord Pendleton
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Aye aye captain! I'm outta here
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Nice deal Pendleton. Love that for you. Timo is a real grinder, just plays the game the right way. Smooth hands, soft wrists. Has some real bite in his shot. He's a real winner and could be a fantasy difference maker.
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https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/blue-jays-continue-sneaky-good-offseason-with-jaime-garcia/
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The Marcus Stroman is a terrific douchebag thread
jays4life19 replied to ValiantJaysFan's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
He should just go full out Sammy Sosa so he can morph into a beautiful, humble, kind human being. -
The dynamic is a little different though. Shapiro is a lot more involved in baseball ops, which is one of the reasons why AA wanted to leave. Atkins should get credit though too, Shatkins is doing some great work here.
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The Marcus Stroman is a terrific douchebag thread
jays4life19 replied to ValiantJaysFan's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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Yeah. Lol. Cashner projects to be worth about 0.5 fWAR while Garcia projects to be worth 2.0 fWAR. And we got himm on a 1 year commitment with a club option. It's good value
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This is a really solid value signing. Love it!
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The Blue Jays have inked lefty Jaime Garcia to a one-year deal worth $8MM, per a club announcement. The contract also includes a club option for 2019.
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He's going to be a beast in the JP classic though.
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Official MiLB/Prospects Thread
jays4life19 replied to Krylian's topic in Blue Jays Minor League Talk
Team farm rankings from BP! Jays top 10 ___ 30. Seattle Mariners (Last Year: 25) The Mariners were strong contenders for the ignominious end of the list even before dealing presumptive top ten prospects for Dee Gordon and trading further prospect inventory for international slot money as part of their ultimately quixotic pursuit of Shohei Ohtani. Now? /casually gestures to screencap above I’d like to say this will look better in a year, that this is just a cyclical thing. It’s possible that Kyle Lewis finally comes back healthy, Evan White figures out how to lift the ball more, and Sam Carlson turns into a Top 101 arm. These are all possibilities, but we live in an entropic universe, so that’s not an enticing parlay. The Mariners do have a good 2017 J2 class that will make their pro debut—though perhaps not stateside yet. They have the 14th overall pick in the draft. And well, it’s unlikely to be any worse next year. It’s hard to see where the breakouts are coming though, and they’ll need more than one. 29. Kansas City Royals (Last Year: 27) 28. New York Mets (Last Year: 12) 27. Arizona Diamondbacks (Last Year: 28) 26. San Francisco Giants (Last Year: 24) The Mariners are a tier of their own. These are more the regular “bad” systems. The names at the top of the team lists are more interesting, there’s a 101 guy, maybe another name or two in consideration, more obvious 2018 breakout candidates (Khalil Lee, Mark Vientos, Marcus Wilson, Jacob Gonzalez), and just more system depth overall. It’s not great depth. There’s too many maybe-fifth-starters or fifth infielders in their top tens. The Giants have the greatest depth in terms of future major league pieces, while the Diamondbacks have the most intriguing upside plays in their next ten. The Mets prospects are—surprise, surprise—mostly injured, and the Royals are just kind of blah past their intriguing top three. 25. Chicago Cubs (Last Year: 13) 24. Boston Red Sox (Last Year: 21) 23. Baltimore Orioles (Last Year: 23) The Cubs and the Red Sox has graduated a ton of top talent over the last few years, have drafted late in the first round—plus sacrificed top picks to sign free agents—and traded top tier prospects for premium major league players in the successful pursuit of pennants and rings. It’s not a surprise they are towards the bottom of their organizational cycle. The Orioles…uh…well Trey Mancini had a solid debut? Both the Sox and the Cubs have a single back-end Top 101 arm (Adbert Alzolay, Jay Groome), a prospect that just missed (Jose Albertos, Michael Chavis), and a less-than-inspiring list of names past their fifth-best prospect or so. Baltimore actually has the best system of the three—cold comfort of course—after breakout years from Ryan Mountcastle and Austin Hays. The system will likely get an additional infusion in 2018 from a Manny Machado trade return, but the lack of pitching development continues to be an issue, and their refusal to play in the IFA market limits their upside in our org rankings. 22. Cleveland Indians (Last Year: 19) 21. Detroit Tigers (Last Year: 25) 20. Houston Astros (Last Year: 11) These systems aren’t “bad” per se. Cleveland has one of the best position player/pitcher combos around with Francisco Mejia and Triston McKenzie. The Tigers are littered with power arms, as the Tigers usually are, and the Astros have an even better one-two punch in Forrest Whitley and Kyle Tucker. All three systems lack depth in the role 5 types, and I suspect there are prospects here we like less than other places (Matt Manning, Alex Faedo, J.B. Bukauskas, Nolan Jones, Will Benson). Detroit is the most likely of the three to take a big jump in 2018. Faedo may put together a healthy season with “potential first-overall pick Alex Faedo” stuff. Matt Manning might put it together. Isaac Paredes is a potential 2019 Top 101 name. They could still trade off more major league pieces at the deadline—plenty of teams will be interested in Michael Fulmer. And oh yeah, they will be adding the first-overall pick in the 2018 draft. As for Cleveland and Houston, they are likely to be down this end for a few more years while they continue to pick at the end of the first round and try and supplement playoff-caliber rosters any way they can. 19. Milwaukee Brewers (Last Year: 3) 18. Los Angeles Angels (Last Year: 29) 17. St. Louis Cardinals (Last Year: 14) 16. Colorado Rockies (Last Year: 9) 15. Pittsburgh Pirates (Last Year: 8) This is the mushy middle this year, but these five organizations got here in very different ways. The Angels are the big riser of the group. The addition of Jo Adell gives them a top-50 talent and 2016 prep picks Chris Rodriguez and Brandon Marsh started to put themselves on national radars as well. Jaime Barria and Michael Hermosillo are nice player development wins. Griffin Canning in intriguing if he stays healthy. And of course they benefited from the Braves transgressions in the IFA market, picking up top 2016 July 2 prospects Kevin Maitan and Livan Soto as free agents. It’s still a little on the shallow side, but their next ten is loaded with potential high-upside arms. It’s not a good system yet, but it’s a far more fun system than it has been post-Mike-Trout. And we expect it to improve further in 2018. The Cardinals and Brewers both traded from their stockpile of Top 101 talent to acquire Marlins outfielders. The Cardinals still have impressive system depth, but the top-end talent has thinned out. The top of the system is major-league-ready, but while we still love Alex Reyes, he’s risky until we see him on a mound, airing it out post-TJ. Meanwhile Carson Kelly doesn’t exactly have a road to playing time with Yadier Molina still a fixture behind the plate. The Brewers parted with three high-upside, Top 101 prospects for Christian Yelich and that will take a bite out of any system. The top of their org is now composed mostly of third or fourth starters (Corbin Burnes, Brandon Woodruff, Luis Ortiz) and first-round picks that have underperformed a little in the pros (Trent Clark, Corey Ray). We do love this year’s first rounder, Keston Hiura, and he could move quickly in 2018. The Rockies drop a bit due to the graduations of their best pitching prospects (Jeff Hoffman, Kyle Freeland, Antonio Senzatela, and German Marquez). Those arms helped them to a surprise wild card birth last year, so I imagine they will take the dip with a modicum of good cheer. Anyway, they still have more arms almost ready to toe the rubber in Coors (Yency Almonte, Ryan Castellani, and Sam Howard) along with one of the best prospects in baseball in Brendan Rodgers. The Angels are an improving system, the Cards, Brewers, and Rockies used their system to improve their major league rosters. The Pirates…well, we just aren’t as high on the system this year. They did graduate two top-30 prospects in Josh Bell and Tyler Glasnow. Bell was steady in his major-league debut, while Glasnow continued to struggle with the strike zone. Austin Meadows had another lost year. Kevin Newman and Will Craig look less like potential above-average starters. This isn’t a bad system by any means. Mitch Keller has a top-of-the-rotation ceiling. We might be saying the same thing about Shane Baz in a year. Cole Tucker and Ke’Bryan Hayes do look like potential above-average starters. And hey, maybe Colin Moran is the latest minuteman of the launch angle revolution. We’re just not feeling it as much this year. | 14. Texas Rangers (Last Year: 16) 13.Washington Nationals (Last Year: 20) And now two systems that I suspect we will be higher on than the rest of the prospect-ranking industrial complex (although I am terrible at those kind of predictions). The Rangers put four prospects in our Top 101, the Nationals, five. We are bullish on Washington’s Juan Soto and Carter Kieboom despite their injury-marred 2017. We see Texas’ Cole Ragans and Kyle Cody as potential 2019 Top 101 arms. And I don’t know if any org outside of the Padres has as many 2018 breakout candidates as these two. Both are likely to take a hit at the top as Victor Robles, Erick Fedde, Willie Calhoun, and Ronald Guzman are all potential graduates, but there are reinforcements waiting. 12. Miami Marlins (Last Year: 30) The Marlins were at the bottom of our org rankings last year. Going into the offseason they were a decent candidate to repeat. They remade their organization by trading their entire starting outfield plus a guy who’s going to move to the outfield. If you are reading this article, you likely don’t need the refresher. The White Sox did something similar last offseason. Chicago was starting from a higher point—although still a bottom five system—but it’s hard to say Miami extracted better value, despite trading more players, including the reigning MVP. In fact the reigning MVP brought back the worst return of the four players. The White Sox’s deals were a tacit indictment of their inability to build around Chris Sale, one of the best pitchers in baseball and on a below market pre-arb extension. The Marlins deals were merely a way to shed priority debt. Jeremy Bentham wrote: “Stretching his hand up to reach the stars, too often man forgets the flowers at his feet.” The Marlins appear to be ignoring both. Might be time for Bruce Sherman and Derek Jeter to ponder what we owe to each other. 11. Cincinnati Reds (Last Year: 17) 10. Minnesota Twins (Last Year: 22) While it might not be fair to lump these two together from a major-league perspective, they make a lot of sense when looking at the state of their minor league systems. Both are led by top tier guys at the very top (Nick Senzel, Royce Lewis), have strong top fives, and then things get…both fun and messy at the same time. The Twins go about their 2-5 set in pretty Twinsian fashion. Stephen Gonsalves has produced prolific strikeout rates at the minor-league level, but we’re less confident that a changeup-first arsenal works so well at the major-league level. Nick Gordon is substance over flash, but we’re buoyed by his ability to introduce more game power into his game in 2018. Wander Javier is the outlier in this grouping, as an extreme upside play, but he’s not the only one in the Twins system. The Reds have something of the inverse in their 2-5 grouping: Hunter Greene was the no. 2 pick in the draft on the back of a triple-digit fastball and elite athleticism. We’re cautious in regards to his risk factors but the upside is undeniable. Taylor Trammell has seen his profile rise significantly this offseason on the back of a dynamic 2017 season, where showcased power and speed at 19 years old in the Midwest League. Winker is a divisive prospect because he’s never really hit for the power you’d want out of a corner outfielder, but has had some injuries that explain some of that away. Mahle might be underrated, and is more Twinsian in terms of profile: nothing special, some above-average pitches, good command and control. Then things get fun, but also open-ended. Brusdar Graterol, Akil Baddoo, Shed Long, Jose Siri, Antonio Santillan… these guys (among others) have significant tools and significant upside, with the commensurate risks. Some of the issues: Long might be more fun than he is good, Siri is a bucket of tools but there are concerns about his approach, in more ways than one, and Santillan desperately needs an effective third offering. Baddoo raked at Elizabethton—more than people anticipated in terms of power output—but it’s worth noting that E-Town is a good place to hit, while Graterol was off many people’s radar, despite peppering the upper 90s consistently on radar guns. The Twins edge out Cincinnati because the depth of their next ten is significant (and even beyond that), but much of that considerable pipeline is at the lowest levels, where the delta in potential outcomes is at its widest. 9. Toronto Blue Jays (Last Year: 18) 8. Oakland Athletics (Last Year: 10) 7. Tampa Bay Rays (Last Year: 15) These three systems go about landing in this tier in very different ways. The Jays have two of the top prospects in all of baseball in Vladito and Bo Bichette, two high-upside guys in Alford and Pearson, and something of a drop-off depending on your feelings on Danny Jansen’s breakout season. Oakland has more depth in the system than we’ve seen in a long while, and their top 10 vacillates between high-risk/high-reward types (Barreto, Mateo, Luzardo, Beck, Lazarito, Kaprielian) and safer, higher-floor options (Fowler, Holmes, Murphy) with Puk straddling both categories. Tampa’s system continues to be headlined by a dynamic one-two punch in Honeywell and Adames, and to them they add fourth-overall pick and two-way sensation Brendan McKay, and breakout prospect Jesus Sanchez. Toronto’s aforementioned drop-off belies a lot of depth in terms of guys who check in at Role 45 types in the next ten, with some legitimate breakout types in Eliser Medrano and Felipe Castaneda. The A’s depth is palpable: Chalmers has impressive stuff when he’s healthy and the same goes for Jefferies, while Shore is another high pick who could slot in at the back of a rotation. Laureano and Neuse are both major-leaguers, but probably not starters on a good team, and Deichmann, Merrell, and Meisner each inject some chance for upside. There are going to be places and people who like Jake Bauers more than we do; it’s just not a persuasive profile within our walls. The same can’t be said for Ronaldo Hernandez, who could be an offense-first catcher with the ability to stick behind the plate. With Hernandez, the rest of the Rays Top 10 contains ample upside, but none played at a higher level than Low-A in 2017, so there’s the requisite risk that comes with those types of lead time. We’ve already praised the depth of the other two systems in this tier, and as you’d expect of an organization on the precipice of the top five, the Rays fall in line well in this regard. Vidal Brujan and Brandon Lowe were popular names in the BP Prospect Team slack channel, Justin Williams is an under-the-radar guy, and Garrett Whitley started converting his prodigious tools into production for the first time. Plus, there’s extreme question mark Jose De Leon, who threw only 40 innings, getting hammered at the upper levels while dominating the lower levels. 6. Chicago White Sox (Last Year: 6) 5. Los Angeles Dodgers (Last Year: 7) 4. New York Yankees (Last Year: 2) The White Sox put the most prospects on our Top 101—eight—but it’s a rather precipitous dropoff after that. They balanced graduating Yoan Moncada, Lucas Giolito, and Reynaldo Lopez by dealing Jose Quintana across town for Eloy Jimenez and Dylan Cease and Tommy Kahnle, David Robertson, and Todd Frazier to the Bronx for Blake Rutherford. The Next Ten is better than last year, but it’s still not a system I’d consider deep, no matter how many times Jarrett Seidler tries to sell me on Micker Adolfo and Yeyson Yrizarri. The Dodgers put a lie to league-wide rebuilding efforts as they continue to win divisions, run a payroll large enough to launch and electric car into low-earth orbit, and maintain a top-five farm system. They don’t have an elite prospect at the top of their team list this year, but they check in with seven 101 names, and that doesn’t even include their last two first round picks. Walker Buehler and Alex Verdugo likely won’t be eligible for the 2019 lists so it remains to be seen if they can refill this prospect pipeline indefinitely, but Keibert Ruiz and Yadier Alvarez could seamlessly slide into those slots next year, and I am sure Wilson will find another three or four Dodgers arms to swoon over in Rancho. The Yankees drop a bit as they switched to deadline buyers this year—as if slipping on an old pair of comfortable slippers you lost under the bed for a while. They also traded for Giancarlo Stanton, but that barely moved the needle on system flush with young Latin talent. Gleyber Torres is one of the best prospects in baseball and it was only a UCL tear on his non-throwing arm that kept him from graduating (or perhaps being the best prospect in baseball. They only put five names on the Top 101 this year, but Miguel Andujar just missed, and the balance of their top ten would have landed in the next 50 names. There’s substantially more risk in the Luis Medinas and Matt Sauers of the world though. 3. Atlanta Braves (Last Year: 1) 2. Philadelphia Phillies (Last Year: 5) 1. San Diego Padres (Last Year: 4) I’m less confident about the order at the top then I have been in recent years. Really all the way down to the Dodgers you could make a case for best system in baseball. The Braves slip to three this year, but it’s only partially due to losing their 2016 J2 class. They graduated Dansby Swanson, Ozzie Albies, and Sean Newcomb as well, so it’s actually kind of amazing they are still in the top tier. Ronald Acuña turning into a destroyer of worlds and the best prospect in baseball helped. There were strong full-season debuts from 2016 picks Ian Anderson, Joey Wentz, and Bryse Wilson. Kolby Allard and Mike Soroka skipped right to Double-A and thrived. Luiz Gohara continued to give glimmers of hope that he might be able to stick as a starter. They do have a little less depth now then the two teams ahead of them though. The Phillies are loaded to the gills. They have a more balanced mix of arms and bats than the Braves and a great one-two punch at the top of their team list—and the top of the 101—in Sixto Sanchez and J.P. Crawford. We might be down on Adam Haseley and Mickey Moniak, but they’d likely be better than fringe-top ten prospects in most systems. We think Daniel Brito is a good bet to break out in 2018. Jhailyn Ortiz could see his stock rise with a good full-season debut, and I don’t even really have the space to do more than namecheck Francisco Morales, Jonathan Guzman, JoJo Romero and Enyel de los Santos. There are prospects that didn’t even make their top 20 that I like (Jose Gomez, McKenzie Mills, Felix Paulino, Trevor Bettencourt) But in the end it was the Padres year. They were just off the top tier last year, graduated two Top 101 prospects in Manuel Margot and Hunter Renfroe, and still got better. Fernando Tatis, Jr. is a top ten prospect in baseball. Luis Urias proved his hit tool would work in the upper minors. Cal Quantrill proved he was healthy. Oh hey, Michel Baez is apparently awesome. The Friars added arguably the best prep arm in the 2017 draft class in southpaw MacKenzie Gore. And when I wrote that the Phillies “are loaded to the gills,” I did not mean to suggest they were a deeper system than the Padres. No one is right now. The scary thing is the only looming graduations here are maybe Luis Urias and Eric Lauer. They have another high draft pick in 2018. You can look forward to the return of Anderson Espinoza (remember him?). And their bumper crop of 2015 IFAs will start landing in full-season ball. They might only get better. -
General 2018 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
jays4life19 replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Lol. My god.

